thanks for all the replys!!! were gonna go get some of those oxy pads and give them a try for a week or two and if they dont get any better then were off to the vet to get a skin scrape.... i dont really think that she puts her face in the snow/ice when she is playing outside she more just does boxer burn type play out there.... but i will let you guys know what we find out and ill definately keep a closer eye on how she plays outside to see if she does do that and i just dont realize it