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Old 02-01-2013, 10:52 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I live in Canada and I don't actually know much about gun laws in Canada, and have never had much interest in learning since I have never owned a gun nor have I ever known anyone on my life who owns a gun. I suspect that maybe my family members who are farmers of some sort may have a rifle or two but I have never seen or heard of any. My brother has a gun but he is a police officer and the only gun he has is whatever he uses when he's on duty so I think that's a little different! I have also never in my life ever felt the need for a gun, I realize I'm only 30 years old but I've lived/traveled in about 10 Canadian cities, various locations in south Africa, central/south America, Australia, Britain and the western US. Maybe I'm just lucky but I've so far managed to survive with just my common sense. Even if it is easy to get a gun in Canada, I think far fewer people in Canada as compared to the US bother to go about obtaining one. I could be totally off the mark and perhaps naive but it seems to me that the average American is much more
worried about their government or other citizens and so feel the need to protect themselves than perhaps we do here on Canada. If the guns aren't the issue then there is something else going on since there seem to be far more mass shootings in the US than other parts of the world, but as many people pointed out this may be due to media coverage. There are obviously mass shootings everywhere (and was one in my province in Taber AB not too long ago) and since the US seems to be featured on every country's news reports we may just be hearing more about the US shootings than elsewhere in the world. Anyway, I'm rambling since I've consumed most of a bottle of wine while waiting for my bf to arrive at the cabin......

As far as Canadian health care goes, I absolutely love my health care (which I hesitate to call free since I pay for it in my taxes but to me it is well worth the price I pay). Having said that, I have never had a major medical emergency where I had to wait for treatment. ER wait times also depend on where you live. I've only had to go to our ER twice, the first time I required minor survey which was performed two days later, the second time I waited maybe an hour to be seen by a doc and then I feel they went above and beyond to find out what was wrong with me. All in all, I think I'd rather wait to see a specialist than to pay for tests, procedures and treatment since I'm just a lowly dog walker and don't have a lot of expendable income!

Time to refill my glass so I guess that's all I have to say...

P.S. Sorry for the typos, I'm on my I phone
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Old 02-02-2013, 12:34 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Most folks don't understand that very simple fact!!!
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Old 02-02-2013, 12:46 AM   #53 (permalink)
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Georgia, if a criminal breaks into your home it may take the police 15 minutes to arrive to your residence. If you have no way of protecting yourself what do you think could happen to you or your family in 15 minutes?
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:32 AM   #54 (permalink)
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You know I never thought about what happens to tourists with a national healthcare system when they need care in the us. Personally I have insurance. It is the first bill I pay. I am self employed and pay it all myself. Costs me neatly 1k perp nth. That is up from $730 just 2 years ago. The affordable healthcare cact is driving up the cost. Argh!!!!
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:29 AM   #55 (permalink)
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I dont know about Canadas laws so I cant chime in on that subject. However, I own a Stoeger 410 double barrel side by side shotgun I bought mostly for varmit control around my chicken coops. I bought it after losing several chicken to stray dogs or dogs allowed to run around because I live in the country. I dont hunt but have no problem with law abiding hunters. I have had my shotgun for 10 years and never killed anything with it(although Ive had many chances).

Here in Oklahoma the gun laws are not very strict considering I lived in NJ before here(Lynne would surely understand this lol). The process to get my shotgun was pretty quick and easy. I went in picked out what I wanted, showed the guy my ID, I filled out an application of sorts, he made a phone call(I assume to see if I could legally own the gun), paid my $$ and I was out of there in less then 10 mins. Not saying thats good or bad but that was my experience.

I have never owned a gun in my life prior to this one(I got it when I was 40). I really didnt care for guns. I did take lessons from a professional on gun safety etc right after I purchased it. He taught me safety and proper gun care and taught me how to shoot it I had no clue lol. I am extremely respectful still of that gun. I dont leave it locked and loaded. However, I have a velco thing on the stock that holds I think 8 shells. I can shoot two rounds fairly quick but beyond that I would be scrambling lol

Its not really for personal protection thats why I dont leave it loaded although I probably should since I live alone and in the country. I know I feel safer with the gun in my house and Im glad I have it. Would I use it to protect myself in an extreme situation? Absolutely! Oklahoma is one of those states where everyone and their dog owns a gun and many have concealed weapons permits. Heck before you go into casinos here the signs on the door says no weapons allowed lol You dont see that very often. I often wonder why anyone would risk being a criminal and break into a house here.....I bet 90% of the people I know own a gun.

The bottom line Im glad I have the right to purchase a gun. As far as an auto weapon and the laws. I dont know enough about that to chime in.
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I live in rural Ontario, Canada and every household around me has at least one rifle or shotgun. Like Goudasmom we have wildlife occassionally that like to steal farmstock and the men do hunt deer and duck.

Things have changed since I was a child, since believe it or not, when I was young the men that were hunting would leave their rifles on the diningroom table in between runs and we children were told not to touch or our butts would be kicked - yes, parents could kick your butt if you disobeyed an important rule, I know thats frowned upon now. Do I think guns should be left out - of course not!

I do not see a problem with guns honestly, I was taught how to use guns properly and if they are stored properly (gunsafe) while not in use and with proper checks before purschasing .

In the age of internet use, many weapons can be made ie. certain bombs to kill multiple victims even assualt weapons it is all there.

What I would like to know is what has changed? Why are so many young males are suffering from mental illness that causes them to choose to shoot multiple victims and then most of the time themselves. Is it medication that is being used now? Is it something we as a society can try and change or help fix?
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I grew up in downtown Toronto as did most of my family. No one on my side of the family owns a gun. My husbands dad had a couple of shotguns but when he died my husband gave them to his cousin because we have no use for them. My husband has never liked hunting but his cousin goes up North every year to hunt moose and deer. It is understood that he will never get rid of them and if he no longer wants them they will come back to us. Will my husband then have to get a license for them? In any case we're city folk so we really have no use for guns!


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Old 02-02-2013, 10:52 AM   #58 (permalink)
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My husband & I have actually been talking about getting our permits to carry & to carry concealed. Yes, we are military & most people feel that when one lives on a military base, they are safe. Guess again, not always the case & just because I live in a fenced in area with guards at gates to get in here doesn't meant our safe. There have been many tragedies over the years on military bases. Just google Fort Hood & look at the shooting that took place by an Army Major.
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Old 02-02-2013, 01:04 PM   #59 (permalink)
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I don't know if is true but of the recent US shooting the shooters were on ritalin or other drugs that have been known to cause suicide and aggressive behavior. I think large numbers of children and adults are prescribed these meds as an excuse for bad behavior. When I was a kid and acted up my folks stung my rear, not much of that going on these days. Its easier to drug your children than deal with the problem.
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Old 02-02-2013, 01:08 PM   #60 (permalink)
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I agree with you Rich. When we were kids if we acted up it was nothing to get a spanking. Now a days you can't do that without fear that someone will turn you over to the authorities for abuse. There is a difference between giving a spanking & abuse. I have taught my boys right from wrong & as they get older I hope they take my advice on how they are to be.
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