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Old 10-09-2013, 01:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So my boxer is 1 1/2 years old and when we walk down the street, every time another dog approaches her she either lays down in the ground or lunges out at them. I don't think she does it aggressively... Although lately she added a growl in at two specific dogs. But usually she just wants to say hello, I think...

Anyway it's so bad that I will cross the street or turn another direction so we don't have to pass other dogs!

I use an easy walk harness. I have gone to a dog "trainer" but they suck where I am from as is specifically addressed this problem and they had no solution!

How do you stop this?!?


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Old 10-09-2013, 08:07 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Idk the harness you specify but I do know that it is rare to have a dog that walks good in a harness. Before anyone gets mad, lol it absolutely can be done and I have seen it, however, more often than not you will get a dog that pulls.

We use collars and have used choke chains, although not for quite some time. Bowser has never had a choke chain on him and he is 11 months old.

There is a walking device (harness/collar thing lol) that is called a gentle leader. A lot of board members use it and love it because it puts a piece over and around the muzzle. It helps control the head better so if they start to pull, it is easier to get them back in check.

What do you do when this happens? Especially with the growling? Is there any discipline? Bowser is learning this stuff still as well and it can be so frustrating!! He has earned some swats on his rear because of bad manners. The main goal is to redirect their focus back to you. I make bowser sit when we pass someone else if he starts acting like a fool. Yes I have to repeat the command a few times but he always does it and that way he isn't pulling my arm out. 70lbs of bounce is hard to hold on to when you are only about double that! Lol. I am looking into the gentle leader as well, I just haven't sprung for it.

Do you take your dog anywhere to socialize him with other pups? That could be beneficial as well


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I have fought this for a couple years now. One thing I've learned is once Beau spots the other dog coming his direction I notice his he tenses up and becomes so focused on the other dog that he doesn't even hear me. I find myself tensing and "waiting for it" as well and pulling the leash tight. This lets him know or believe something is going to happen. I feel like I'm somehow teaching him this is what we do when see another dog. I've tried several different things to no avail. Even took him to school and followed all the advice from the trainer. I've used the prong collar, but hated doing that so I just don't anymore. However, what works for me now is a particular correction collar that I bought. It has 4 settings on it. Whistle, vibrate, static and a light. Once we spot the other dog, I try not to tense up and give him a signal that somethings up. I walk normally and keep the controller in my hand. I give him the command of "walk nice" and if he does not acknowledge me, I use the whistle. This brings his attention directly to me and he's not sure how to react, so he watches me to see what I want him to do. I want him to keep waling nicely with me and not pay attention to the other dog. If he ignores me, I whistle again and give the same command. If there is a third time, and he actually lunges or pulls towards the other dog, I use the vibration. It doesn't hurt him at all. It just gets his attention and returns his focus to me. So far so good. I actually walked him the other day and encountered another dog and I didn't have to use the whistle or the static. This may not be for everyone....but it's what works for me. I don't use the static at all...and he rarely ever gets the vibration...the whistle is usually all it takes. He even reacts to just my own whistle now. So hopefully we will eliminate the collar. We use it in the house when we get a lot of company as well because his attention is way out there and he just does not listen. He's a good boy, just needs help reeling in the attention. When we finished behavioral training, the trainer apologized to me and offered me free classes because he said Beau is one of the most stubborn dogs he's worked with. He said his focus on other things is just incredible and couldn't believe how hard it is to reel it back. :/ He is a work in progress....and I love him!
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We have the same problem with Duke. He will "stalk" the dogs as they approach and he also lunges at people sometimes. I don't know how to stop it... it's getting old fast! As he gets bigger and stronger it really hurts our arms when he does this! He just did it again last night to some poor elderly couple walking by and scared the poop out of the lady. He is definitely not being aggressive, I don't know what the problem is? No amount of correcting seems to be working so far! We use an "easywalk" harness and it doesn't help at all.

I feel your pain!!!
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Idk the harness you specify but I do know that it is rare to have a dog that walks good in a harness. Before anyone gets mad, lol it absolutely can be done and I have seen it, however, more often than not you will get a dog that pulls.

We use collars and have used choke chains, although not for quite some time. Bowser has never had a choke chain on him and he is 11 months old.

There is a walking device (harness/collar thing lol) that is called a gentle leader. A lot of board members use it and love it because it puts a piece over and around the muzzle. It helps control the head better so if they start to pull, it is easier to get them back in check.

What do you do when this happens? Especially with the growling? Is there any discipline? Bowser is learning this stuff still as well and it can be so frustrating!! He has earned some swats on his rear because of bad manners. The main goal is to redirect their focus back to you. I make bowser sit when we pass someone else if he starts acting like a fool. Yes I have to repeat the command a few times but he always does it and that way he isn't pulling my arm out. 70lbs of bounce is hard to hold on to when you are only about double that! Lol. I am looking into the gentle leader as well, I just haven't sprung for it.

Do you take your dog anywhere to socialize him with other pups? That could be beneficial as well


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Thanks for the reply! The harness I use leads from the front and when she does this lunging thing I just pull her back at me.

I have snapped the leash on her but to break her attention and get it back on me but honestly I am scared to to this because there are a lot of weirdos around here that would think that is abuse...

So when the other dog passes and she is still looking we make her sit and get her attention back on us.


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Great advice!! Thank you so much, I will see if I can find one of those collars.

I have been through all this too! Training by "professionals", etc it is painful!! I too tense up and she reads me. She loves other dogs too, we have lots of friends with dogs.

When we walk she chooses to ignore some, but then she has a thing for others.

I will see if that collar works, I do not want to resort to choke chains and prong collars.


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I know that a lot of people don't agree with using choke collars (they are really training collars), but that is what we always use to walk all our dogs. Of course you don't choke them, you snap the collar and release. We have always trained them to heel on a very short lead right next to us and don't allow them to stop, sniff or pay attention to others. (Obviously you can't do this all the time if you have to walk your dog to potty, but they can learn different ways to walk.) We would start where there are no distractions, even in our own yard for short periods of time. Each time they pull or start to wander, you snap the collar, release and tell them to heel. It takes some time, but they pick it up fairly fast.

Then you can start taking them where they will encounter distractions. It really doesn't take to long. I always found it helpful to talk to them, keep telling them to heel and praise if they do it even for a second. After you work with them a while you can advance. Sadie knows that when she has her choke collar on she can not pull - if I have her lead short she knows she has to walk by me and can't stop - if I give the length of her 6' lead she will walk at the end, she won't pull, but she knows that she has a little leeway to stop and sniff etc. the key if to be consistent when training until they know what to expect.

it might be harder to get them to stop lunging at dogs etc, but if you make them heel and ignore others I think it would at least make it easier. Good luck,
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What kind of choke collar? Is it the martingale type or the one with forks?


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Ugh... I hate choke collars but if Duke keeps it up I may consider trying one before he rips our arms off or knocks someone else over!
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Ugh... I hate choke collars but if Duke keeps it up I may consider trying one before he rips our arms off or knocks someone else over!
I'm gonna try the vibration one first. My girl would likely damage herself from a choke collar as I swear her brain shuts off when distracted!


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