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552mom 06-12-2007 02:50 PM

3 Yr. Old Neutered Male Boxer w/dominant behavior?
 
Hi-I am brand new here and hoping to find some guidance with my boxer boy, Oscar. He just turned 3 yrs old on June 1st. He's fixed and I have had him since he was 7 weeks old. He's been socialized with other dogs, not on a regular basis but before he was a year old he had no problems with other dogs. I have noticed more and more lately that when introducing him to new dogs he sniffs noses and then immediately wants to pin them down. I know that boxers do everything with their front paws but within 30-45 seconds of meeting a dog he wants to paw at them. He's not even aggressive about it, almost playful but then of course naturally the other dog gets testy about it (not that I blame them) and so begins a big snarling snap fest. These situations are always controlled, I tell people that want to introduce their dog to him he's very high strung, etc...Is he trying to be dominant? Have I failed him in some way? And if so can I fix it now? He has run with my sisters dog and a friend of mine's dog as well but he doesn't leave them alone...he just badgers them and they snarl and growl at him and he doesn't even seem to heed their warnings of 'back off pal'. What am I doing wrong? He's such a sweet goofy boy.

nano 06-12-2007 03:15 PM

Re: 3 Yr. Old Neutered Male Boxer w/dominant behavior?
 
Yes, he is dominant. *I also have a male that is that way. *He does well with dogs he knows as far as allowing them in his space but we don't go and socialize with others. *I really am not into that with my dogs anyway. *Greetings between dogs should always go S L O W, especially with one such as you and I have. *Play should be monitored and I would have him drag a leash when he is with the two he knows and command "mellow out" when he becomes pushy with them. *I would take him on a time out. *When he quiets, try again to let him play (still dragging a six foot leash) and as long as it continues to be good play let it happe, as soon as it turns pushy, take him out again. This will take some work but is worth it. *He has been running the show and bullying others so you will have to become the "leader of the pack" and show him a better way. *It is not your fault, you just didn't know how to handle it. *I give you alot of credit for asking for advice and help. *You are right that Boxers do play different and a bit rougher than other dogs. *This can spark unpleasantries with dogs not accustomed to it and needs to be kept in check.

I don't let me dogs meet any strange dogs I meet (meaning dogs I don't know owners of) *It's just not worth it. *The friendliest dog can become upset by another dog just looking at it wrong. *Dogs are dogs and in the dog world they do not visit each others territories and play. *They keep to their own and if they accidently trespass they are quick to move on. *People think that all dogs should meet and stick their noses in anothers butt, face etc as soon as they walk up. *In Dog language this is really considered very rude, so in other words most dog owners you run across aren't being polite or appropriate when they force their dogs rude greeting on your dog. *I just tell people that we are training "not to meet others" now, so we aren't greeting others today. *I just have my dog do a polite sit far enough away from the people and dogs, so that they have the room to listen to me and stay back from the other people. *

We have working dogs and working dogs tend to need more room from others until they adjust to situations. *It will better with time, but keep this in mind when working with your dog.

Nano

lillyzmomma 06-12-2007 03:25 PM

Re: 3 Yr. Old Neutered Male Boxer w/dominant behavior?
 
Another thing about Boxers is that they have a "Make My Day" attitude with other dogs anyways. *Some dogs don't mind it and see it for what it is, a typical Boxer being Sassy. *Some really don't appreciate it. *If your dog is behaving this way, then you should introduce new dogs slowly (you should do this anyways). *Give him rules and boundaries. *If he breaks the rules or steps outside the boundaries, then utilize a punishment (timeouts or ending the game/socialization is a great way to do it; NOTHING EVER PHYSICALLY AGGRESSIVE--violence and aggression beget violence and aggression)

I do agree with nano, however, that likely the best way to handle this is to not go to a dog park. *You know your dog and how he will behave and if you can control him, but you don't know all the other dogs, how they will behave or if their owners can control them. *I think, in this case it's better to be safe than sorry. *For me it would be NO MORE DOG PARK. *

Liz and Lilly

samsonsmom 06-12-2007 07:12 PM

Re: 3 Yr. Old Neutered Male Boxer w/dominant behavior?
 
my Samson is a lot like that, that's why he stays at home for meetups..It's easier on everyone..One on one, he does great, matter of fact, most other dogs will get very submisssive around him, but he still will act up occasionally, so I find it's best just to avoid situations that I set him up for failing...Even when we brought Angel home in Feb, it was a bit touchy at first, he's old and set in his ways tho, so I expected it...

As much as it would be nice to let Oscar have a romp in the park, I don't think it's worth the possible consequences. Maybe find a place that you can take him that there are no other dogs and let him just run...It was hard for me to come to the realization that Samson just wasn't the "party animal" that I thought he should be. Now he's happier and I feel better for that...He gets his walks with his sis and that's all he needs... :)

Flutterby 06-12-2007 08:08 PM

Re: 3 Yr. Old Neutered Male Boxer w/dominant behavior?
 
Toby was like that before he became aggressive with strange dogs.. I don't mind not letting him mingle with all of the other dogs...

552mom 06-13-2007 10:57 AM

Re: 3 Yr. Old Neutered Male Boxer w/dominant behavior?
 
Thank you all SO much for all the advice and it's nice to know that there are other boxers out there that just are not the 'social butterflies' I thought Oscar should be. I really thought I had done something terribly wrong in his upbringing. I just need to respect the young man that he is now and not put him in situations where he could fail. I have a son that races motocross and I do enjoy bringing Oscar to the track with me-he's on a 2 ft/ leash and is good about staying right with me at all times, but any advice on what I can say politely to other dog owners that want Oscar to meet their dog as we pass? I don't want people to think that he's mean and I'm bringing him out in publice like that. And I think we all know that some people will automatically assume that. Thank you again for everything. I'll be coming back to this site for sure! *:)

lillyzmomma 06-13-2007 02:20 PM

Re: 3 Yr. Old Neutered Male Boxer w/dominant behavior?
 
Just tell them that he is obedience training and your are taking him on this outing to reinforce new behaviors.

I'm, personally, a bit of a smart a** so I would probably tell them that he hungry and hasn't had his snack that day and that socializing with another dog would be "a bloody mess"...If ya know what I mean... *LOL!!!! *OK...Bad joke, but I strange like that...

When people ask me if Lilly bites children (keep in mind shes a serviced dog [they don't bite]), I tell them, "She hasn't eaten a kid in.....oh....3 weeks! *She doesn't like them as snacks anymore...they're too bony...!" *And walk away!!!

Pretty good if you wanna leave them scratching their heads...

Liz and Lilly

bubba 06-13-2007 08:27 PM

Re: 3 Yr. Old Neutered Male Boxer w/dominant behavior?
 
I dont let Zeus and Dante go and meet other dogs either. For one Zeus tries to be dominate and also a little aggressive so when im at a park walking them around the pond and another dog comes in sight i just sit them so they are neutral. and make them stay that way or lay them down. Then i take them to let them run around in a secluded area. Good luck.

KOTAJR 07-09-2007 10:51 AM

Re: 3 Yr. Old Neutered Male Boxer w/dominant behavior?
 
My Kota is 7.5 months old not neutered, but will be on the 24th of this month. He tries to mount everyting at the event male, female makes not difference, if its moving slow enough his is on it adult or pup. Larger dogs either ignore him or send him flying.


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