Resource Guarding - Page 3

Hulk · 03-28-2009, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by nano

You're welcome! I am sorry you are going thru some stuff, but it is always something to learn and help you draw closer to your dogs. It is very helpful for others the experience you have shared and you wrote such and excellent article.

I wouldn't be too hard on myself for what happened and wonder what may have happened that you don't know. Like you said main thing is they are home and you can work thru this other stuff. I had the incidents start with my two girls that I had for 6 and 8 years respectfully. All of a sudden they started up and for no apparent reason. Have you checked thyroid on her? I'm guessing you may have but what I found out about my one (white) girl later was that she was in fact hypo-thyroid.

Your right, and very caring...its just hard when its your baby, you want to protect them from bad things...Its taken her a full 3 months to regain her confidence...and I think it is a work in progress, the agility will be a good confidence builder for our relationship and for her.

Funny you mention that bc she has an appt. monday, I was talking to my trainer and it dawned on me I hadn't ruled out thyroid for the change in her behavior

Hulk is on thyroid med, his level is right on avg but with a dog pulmonic stenosis(heart prob) his cardiologist wanted him on low dose of thyroid to ensure his overall health, we used Standard process thryoid supplement to get his levels up and then re-tested, I like to use natural first but it didn't work so we had to put him on a low dose. She has always been so healthy I just didn't think of it, but I am going to have her checked just to make sure...I am going to run a full panel on her as well with her being a spay female, I want to look at all her levels.

Thanks for the help!

nano · 03-29-2009, 06:13 AM

Isn't this forum just the best?

We all love Mark!

thank you, thank you, thank you!

nano · 03-29-2009, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by grammie

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Originally Posted by Arbiesmom

yet outside he will walk loose leash with Keith but drag me - what's going on?

here too! WTH?

You two need to read my loose leash walking topic

My guess would be that your men have a different walking technique than you do. You have been letting your dogs drag you around. Yep, sorry you have. It doesn't happen at my house (my shoulders can't stand for it), though Talia still has to try it and see if dragging might just work this once every single time we start off on our walk. Mateo is a true gentleman about it now as he figured out pulling gets one no where about 2 years ago. But when he see's the thing he wants to immediately get to (intruder, deer) he slips into hard-wired prey drive and forgets,, but I stop and don't allow any pulling.

Mateo will do the demand barking sometimes when he wants to meet someone, or something. He gets to do a nice down and i ignore it. Talia will do the backtalk barking when I ask her for a down which I also just ignore or give her a quiet "shhh" with my finger in front of my mouth. I then just praise the "good down, good downs" with the dog(s) doing it.

My dogs are spoiled rotten also. You have to watch that they don't push too much. I'm not saying they dont' get a bit pushy around here at times either. No perfect dog out there and certainly not at my house.

dlr1957 · 12-23-2009, 09:00 PM

I understand the principle of NILF, but I think my dog, Eva, respects my husband & me. She is pretty obedient & isn't allowed on furniture, & sits & waits for permission to eat. I wrote before that I am afraid I may have to re-home her due to having young grandchildren.
one of the 1st times she was around 3 yr old she growled when he picked up a ball she had been playing with. I was very watchful, kept toys away from her, consulted a behaviorist, & have been having child feed her, etc. things were ok for 1 mo. then when 2 boys were being playful & running around with me I think I heard her growl. Am only 98% sure . Sometimes she does guard with me. She is 5 & I don't think she has been around kids much. I try to keep kids calm when they are around her, & put her in another room w/ gate when they are not, but I am not willing to change my entire life & kids life to have Eva. I have been told on this forum that I need to work w/ her, but don't know what I am supposed to do. it's hard since she doesn't guard all the time, so just when I think she will be ok, she does it again. Sometimes she guards me, & since I keep ball put up since sometimes she guards it she will take one of kids toys & guard. Also she has snapped at my beagle for comming in the kitchen when I have particularly good smelling food on counter, but doesn't seem to guard her dog food. Since I'm dealing with kids, they aren't able to do the exercises with her. Also she only guards sometimes, & usually not when people are over (like the behaviorist) any advice would be appreciated.

dlr1957 · 01-01-2010, 10:18 PM

For update, I'm praying that Eva may yet adjust, it's been since wk. before Thanksgiving. Kids spent the night last night & were here all day today, & no major problem. Since I feel she respects husband & me I'm working on teaching her to respect kids.They feed her, have her sit, shake, speak, etc for treats. I'm teaching her to respect their space, when she gets pushy, licking their face, etc I make her back up & sit, or send her to lay down. She no longer chases them, & didn't seem bothered by loud play. By the time they left, she was sleeping normally & not paying much attention to them. I'm still very cautious, I don't let her get between kids & me so she won't be tempted to guard me & try to keep them from jumping around near her & keep her gated out of their room, so she won't decide any toys are hers. I could tell she was much more relaxed this visit, but am still wondering if I will ever be able to let my guard down. I have the kids too much for all these precautions to be necessary forever.
Also noticed that last wk someone was visiting & on the floor petting her & my beagle came up & she snarled at him, unwilling to share the attention. Today when uncle came over & was petting her & beagle came over she tried half heartedly to tackle him, but no growling. Do you think she is improving enough that she may accept kids as higher members of pack? Her being so old (5) really worries me.
This isn't my 1st boxer, I grew up with 3 who weren't crazy about strangers, but would never dream of growling at family. As an adult I had one for 14 yrs, but she was the mellowest, most non aggressive boxer I've ever seen, & we did everything you aren't supposed to, we talked baby talk to her & got a king size bed because she took up so much room. I knew nothing about dog training or behavior, have just started learning because of problem with this new one.
Thanks again.

Jeanie Marie · 01-05-2013, 10:56 PM

Very interesting! Thank you!

Truman · 02-25-2013, 12:03 AM

Thank you for the helpful suggestions. We have a one and a three year old and a 13 week old 1/2 european male boxer puppy. He recently growled at my 3 year old when he patted him while he was chewing on a bone. He won't do it to my husband or myself as we have established dominance over him..it's just harder with the kids. He also growled at my one year old by his food dish. I am going to try the suggestions listed. If anyone else has suggestions I would greatly welome them. I am going to talk to my trainer this week at our obeidence class too. We selected him from a reputable breeder that breeds for temperment. When he did this we were of course horrified since we have small children. I hope this is fixable because otherwise he is wonderful with them.
Thanks, Lindsay

03-29-2009, 06:13 AM	#22 (permalink)
nano BoxerForums Addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mountains of North Carolina Posts: 2,349	Re: Resource Guarding Isn't this forum just the best? We all love Mark! thank you, thank you, thank you! __________________ NANO Missing all the Boxer kids who have left me over the last 28 years. Herc, Kristi, Roxy, Bert, Spuds, Petey, Osmond & Zoe (CGC) you all blessed me so much. And Namaste' to Mateo (CGC) and Talia who currently light up my life!

12-23-2009, 09:00 PM	#24 (permalink)
dlr1957 New User Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 20	need help w/ resource guarding I understand the principle of NILF, but I think my dog, Eva, respects my husband & me. She is pretty obedient & isn't allowed on furniture, & sits & waits for permission to eat. I wrote before that I am afraid I may have to re-home her due to having young grandchildren. one of the 1st times she was around 3 yr old she growled when he picked up a ball she had been playing with. I was very watchful, kept toys away from her, consulted a behaviorist, & have been having child feed her, etc. things were ok for 1 mo. then when 2 boys were being playful & running around with me I think I heard her growl. Am only 98% sure . Sometimes she does guard with me. She is 5 & I don't think she has been around kids much. I try to keep kids calm when they are around her, & put her in another room w/ gate when they are not, but I am not willing to change my entire life & kids life to have Eva. I have been told on this forum that I need to work w/ her, but don't know what I am supposed to do. it's hard since she doesn't guard all the time, so just when I think she will be ok, she does it again. Sometimes she guards me, & since I keep ball put up since sometimes she guards it she will take one of kids toys & guard. Also she has snapped at my beagle for comming in the kitchen when I have particularly good smelling food on counter, but doesn't seem to guard her dog food. Since I'm dealing with kids, they aren't able to do the exercises with her. Also she only guards sometimes, & usually not when people are over (like the behaviorist) any advice would be appreciated.

01-05-2013, 10:56 PM	#26 (permalink)
Jeanie Marie New User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 9	Very interesting! Thank you! __________________ ~Jeanie Mom to Duke and Buster (and our kids at the Rainbow Bridge Daisy and Original Duke)

02-25-2013, 12:03 AM	#27 (permalink)
Truman New User Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 1	13 week old just started resource gaurding Thank you for the helpful suggestions. We have a one and a three year old and a 13 week old 1/2 european male boxer puppy. He recently growled at my 3 year old when he patted him while he was chewing on a bone. He won't do it to my husband or myself as we have established dominance over him..it's just harder with the kids. He also growled at my one year old by his food dish. I am going to try the suggestions listed. If anyone else has suggestions I would greatly welome them. I am going to talk to my trainer this week at our obeidence class too. We selected him from a reputable breeder that breeds for temperment. When he did this we were of course horrified since we have small children. I hope this is fixable because otherwise he is wonderful with them. Thanks, Lindsay

01-01-2010, 10:18 PM	#25 (permalink)
dlr1957 New User Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 20	For update, I'm praying that Eva may yet adjust, it's been since wk. before Thanksgiving. Kids spent the night last night & were here all day today, & no major problem. Since I feel she respects husband & me I'm working on teaching her to respect kids.They feed her, have her sit, shake, speak, etc for treats. I'm teaching her to respect their space, when she gets pushy, licking their face, etc I make her back up & sit, or send her to lay down. She no longer chases them, & didn't seem bothered by loud play. By the time they left, she was sleeping normally & not paying much attention to them. I'm still very cautious, I don't let her get between kids & me so she won't be tempted to guard me & try to keep them from jumping around near her & keep her gated out of their room, so she won't decide any toys are hers. I could tell she was much more relaxed this visit, but am still wondering if I will ever be able to let my guard down. I have the kids too much for all these precautions to be necessary forever. Also noticed that last wk someone was visiting & on the floor petting her & my beagle came up & she snarled at him, unwilling to share the attention. Today when uncle came over & was petting her & beagle came over she tried half heartedly to tackle him, but no growling. Do you think she is improving enough that she may accept kids as higher members of pack? Her being so old (5) really worries me. This isn't my 1st boxer, I grew up with 3 who weren't crazy about strangers, but would never dream of growling at family. As an adult I had one for 14 yrs, but she was the mellowest, most non aggressive boxer I've ever seen, & we did everything you aren't supposed to, we talked baby talk to her & got a king size bed because she took up so much room. I knew nothing about dog training or behavior, have just started learning because of problem with this new one. Thanks again.

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