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Old 07-05-2010, 03:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi there,

I am new to the forum and have been thoroughly researching the breed and am excited to add a member to my growing family. That being said, i was wondering if you have any feedback about Ambato Boxers (ONTARIO BOXER BREEDER - AMBATO BOXERS )? They say that all their dogs are CKC registered... but so does Landos and they are no exactly the most humane.

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated! Also, if you have any word of mouth boxer breeder referrals for the GTA and surrounding areas, they would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
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Old 07-06-2010, 11:33 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Well I just took a quick look at the breeders site...

I didn't see anything about health testing or what they are doing to prove their dogs are good examples of the breed (i.e conformation schtzhund etc). Do you know if the dogs are registered with the Continental kennel club or Canadian kennel club? If they are with the Continental Kennel club just avoid them.

You could e-mail the breeder with plenty of questions and see how they reply back or if they reply back. If you do ask them things like...
Are these animals you breed working animals, show quality, or simply pets?
What type of health testing do you preform on your dogs?
What age do you generally start breeding females?
How often do you breed your dogs?
Do you take your dogs back at any time in their lifetime if a pet owner decides he or she no longer wants the dog?
At what age do you place the puppies in their new home and will the puppies have had their first set of vaccinations before placement?
Do you require a contract? If so, what are the terms and guarantees? What does your contract say about hereditary problems?
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Old 07-06-2010, 02:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Looks like they have some cute puppies and nice dogs.. but like Starburst said, there is no mention of conformation showing (which is done to select breeding quality dogs that fit the breed standard) or health testing. Because Boxers are very prone to certain health problems such as heart diseases and thyroid problems, and some can be prone to hip dysplasia, you want to select a breeder who tests their dogs for these problems before breeding them. A "vet check" is not the same as extensive health testing. Most who do test their dogs usually show their dogs as well, and proudly display the results of these health tests on their websites. You're looking for OFA certification on hips, 24hr holter monitoring on the hearts, and the results of thyroid tests at the very least. If there is no mention of these tests, I would steer clear. Heart problems have been known to hit Boxers at the young ages of 2 and 3 years old and that can be devastating. Puppies from reputable breeders will cost you more money yes. But save money now on a cheap pup from a less than reputable breeder and you might be facing thousands in vet bills later on. While health testing the parents can't guarantee a 100% healthy puppy, it does GREATLY reduce the chance of you losing your pet at too young of an age.
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There are some great breeders in the Toronto/Hamilton area who do testing... Try Northern Ontario Boxer Club for listings... They don't always update their websites but contacting them they may be able to steer you in the direction your looking for...

Ambato Boxers has ALOT of dogs..She looks after and loves her dogs to pieces but I am almost positive she does not do health testing... Her lines all stemmed from the Tanoak lines from a breeder in Barrie, Ontario...
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I would pass on them.. They seem to breed for quanity... IMO $1000.00 for an un health tested pup is pretty pricey ... If you do a search on google you will see that they have many classified ads and space on websites advertising the sale of puppies.
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Not sure what it is in $ but here a show pup from a good breeder is around 850
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I find most breeders here in Ontario are asking from $1000 to $1500 for a pup... The ones I have researched do health testing, show conformation and are totally on the up and up... Takes a little time, and effort to get in contact and get to know them but totally worth it when you have a wonderful, healthy puppy!!
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Hey guys,

Came across this post.. and figured I'd pipe in.

My wife and I purchased a boxer from Ambato boxers close to 4 years ago now.

We live in Nova Scotia, and had our boxer shipped by plane. Our experience with Ambato boxers have been top notch.

Our boxer is very healthy, and is very well behaved. We have a very large family of grandparents, great-grandparents, lots of infants and kids. We bring our boxer, Moby everywhere, and he is always welcome.

Sofia is the breeder, and she is a doll. Whenever I have questions on diet plans, or whatever she always replies quickly over the email, and wants us to phone any time.

Moby had a lot of health screenings and whatnot she did before the purchase, all the paperwork and vet info came with Moby I'd say it is not listed on the website, more to the fact they are not tech savvy, they are probably busy playing with their dogs!

Anyway, we have a 3 year old, and a 9 month old. Moby is very careful around the kids, is not jealous, the vet says he is in amazing shape.. If you want more info contact me at rskelhorn(at)mac.com

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I agree with what many of the members have said. Stay away from any breeder that does not health test. This breeder has LOTS of dogs, and produces LOTS of puppies. Both of which should be red flags. I would contact your local boxer club. They should have a list of reputable breeders. Keep us posted, and good luck on your search!

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R Skelhorn** You are very lucky to have such a great experience with this breeder. I take it you never visited their facilty. If you did you would have run in the other direction. I have had several clientele visit them before ending up getting a puppy from us. They refuse to show the mothers of the puppies and when you ask to see the stud they will point into a large fenced in area and say its the brown one, mean while they are all fawn!! lol If they sense you are not interested they will drastically reduce the price to try and get your sale.

Not a breeder I recommend at all.
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