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Old 12-26-2011, 08:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Black and White, no brindle color boxer

hello friends,, i have a 4month black and white(kind of brown tint in the light) male boxer named duke. he is not a brindle of any kind, he is growing so fast and i believe he is an excellent suitor for someone who has a dark female to possibly produce litters that are heavy in black and white non brindle coloring. my question,if somone chooses to respond, whats the best way to go about findings suitors for duke and if someone has knowledge, what are and what determines litter color markings. what i know is (non brindle) black and white boxers in my area are more expensive than other colors and i am looking for duke to be a stud. any comments or responses will help. thank u all !
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Old 12-26-2011, 09:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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First, Welcome to the forum.

Second, the color black is not genetically possible in a boxer as they don't carry the gene for it. A "black" boxer most likely has another breed mixed in somewhere along the lines.

Third, looking to stud a dog is against the rules of the forum (Duke is way too young, anyway). Here is a link to the rules:
Boxer Forum : Boxer Breed Dog Forums - Announcements in Forum : General Boxer Forum

Fourth, there is so much more involved in producing healthy boxers than just thinking your dog would be "an excellent suitor". Please read the following thread and all the links on it:
Thinking of breeding??

There are so many Boxers with health issues , I do hope you will do a lot more research before even contemplating breeding your dog.

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Old 12-26-2011, 09:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Why is it that you think he'd be a good stud dog? Because his coloring can get you more money?
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Old 12-26-2011, 10:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
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At only 4 months old it's impossible to say wether or not Duke would be a good choice as a stud dog. I thought the world of my Riley. He was such a loving boy, he was a very good looking boy, and I know that he would've made some great looking puppies, but had I bred him (which I never once even considered) I'd be passing on the genes for cardiomyopathy. That would've just caused more heartache for the puppy's future families and it would've been very irresponsible of me.

If you're serious about studding him out, PLEASE do some more homework regarding genetics, the breed standard, and the appropriate health tests that should be done BEFORE you breed him. These tests are NOT the same as your vet telling you he's healthy and can be bred. These tests are more in depth to give you a better picture of your dog's health. What do you know about Duke's lineage?

As already mentioned, the boxer breed is already plagued with so many health issues and there are already many reputable breeders out there who take breeding their dogs VERY seriously both to maintain this wonderful breed and to keep it as healthy and strong as it can be. These are the breeders who are very selective of which dogs they breed, they are involved in conformation, and they do health testing on both the sire and dam before breeding takes place. I'm not trying to be rude or harsh, but I honestly feel that we don't need more unhealthy boxers just adding to the problems that this breed is already facing.
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You can read the AKC regulation and it clearly states that there is NO such thing as a black boxer. If someone has a black boxer, as Gypsie stated then it is because it is a mix breed. Which is actually happening more and more because breeders see that they can breed a boxer with say a American bulldog as well as other breeds and produce what looks like a full blooded boxer to someone who doesnt know about the breed and so they buy a mutt but pay for a full blooded boxer.
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You can read the AKC regulation and it clearly states that there is NO such thing as a black boxer. If someone has a black boxer, as Gypsie stated then it is because it is a mix breed. Which is actually happening more and more because breeders see that they can breed a boxer with say a American bulldog as well as other breeds and produce what looks like a full blooded boxer to someone who doesnt know about the breed and so they buy a mutt but pay for a full blooded boxer.
The sad part is that the average human being assumes that AKC papers mean something and regardless of qualifications the AKC will infact provide that purebred stamp of approval. Educating yourself on breed standards also means that AKC registration DOES NOT mean squat..accept that an unqualified dog with said papers has a higher price tag than it would without said approved qualifications.
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ACTUALLY I was simply pointing out that a black "purebred" Boxer is not possible, and was simply referring to the AKC regulations as to state why that is not possible because they even state on their site as well (as plenty other creditable sites, if that one isn't good enough for you) that black boxers are not genetically possible. I never said that AKC papers did or didn't mean anything. That was off subject anyway.
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Actually it's not off subject. Lots of People think they have a quality boxer to breed because they have papers saying its AKC certified, and the point Marki was stating is that the papers dont actually mean anything. Just because your Dog is AKC certified does not mean anything. So its actually right on point. You can purchase a Dog from a BYB who is AKC certified, does not mean its a healthy dog that should be Bred, or is show quality or is even healthy for that matter. Alot of people think that AKC means top quality dog
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Old 12-30-2011, 10:04 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I NEVER said that AKC meant you had a healthy, top of the line dog . I know anyone can produce AKC papers and it be a BYB, Ive seen it before.
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No one ever said you said that..Actually she said the Average Human Being thinks that.. She was simply adding to your post about the AKC...OK Nevermind..Now its getting off subject
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