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Old 10-01-2012, 10:24 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Okay, this is way off the original topic but I have a question. The "greyhound topline" is clearly NOT what's stated in the Boxer standard but is that what's winning now? If so, how? Are these dogs with incorrect toplines being shown by professional handlers or by owner-handlers? Just wondering because in the Cocker world, you could send a mediocre dog with a professional handler & more often than not, that mediocre dog would come out with a pretty purple ribbon, especially under certain judges. Is the boxer show ring as political as the cocker ring?
Oh, and this is coming from someone who now has a rescue boxer in her home. I KNOW she is far from meeting the standard (LOL). We love her, anyway, faults & all.
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Okay, this is way off the original topic but I have a question. The "greyhound topline" is clearly NOT what's stated in the Boxer standard but is that what's winning now? If so, how? Are these dogs with incorrect toplines being shown by professional handlers or by owner-handlers? Just wondering because in the Cocker world, you could send a mediocre dog with a professional handler & more often than not, that mediocre dog would come out with a pretty purple ribbon, especially under certain judges. Is the boxer show ring as political as the cocker ring?
Oh, and this is coming from someone who now has a rescue boxer in her home. I KNOW she is far from meeting the standard (LOL). We love her, anyway, faults & all.
I will be the first to admit I did exaggerate, but I can't stand hingy or sling back toplines. And yes, the Boxer ring is just as political. You see it a lot, plus handlers know how to make it less obvious. You really don't see owner-handlers in Boxers, you see bigtime breeder/owner/handler. But not teally unknown owner-handled.
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:51 PM   #13 (permalink)
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My only thing is that once you introduce another breed you no longer have a true purebred boxer. Why mess with perfection? Let the boxer be a true boxer. I think our black boxer was cross bred bc he was very large and tall at 100lbs. He passed away with cancer at age 5. He was eat up and we had to put him down. Very sad day for our family, this was 7 months ago.
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Old 11-28-2012, 12:25 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I agree about looking into the BYB boxers first before looking at a true out breed my Brandi has the most correct head per the standardTrue "out-crossing"?-img_20121114_132905.jpg but the rest of her leaves lots to be desired to be a "correct" boxer but who knows what other good traits we could breed back in with some of the BYB dogs
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My only thing is that once you introduce another breed you no longer have a true purebred boxer. Why mess with perfection? Let the boxer be a true boxer. I think our black boxer was cross bred bc he was very large and tall at 100lbs. He passed away with cancer at age 5. He was eat up and we had to put him down. Very sad day for our family, this was 7 months ago.
I am so sorry to hear of your Boxer mix succumbing to cancer at such an early age, however, this was almost certainly NOT due to him being a Boxer Crossbreed. The Boxer breed itself is a breed that holds the unfortunate title as being one of the breeds most inclined to develop cancer. In fact, infusing a line with an outcross of a similar breed is sometimes done specifically to increase the "genetic pool" & promote health & longevity in breeds where such factors exist. There is a lot of genetics that goes into outcrossing & I'm far from familiar with it, but yes, within a certain number of generations - (stipulated by the AKC in the USA) you are back to breeding full bred Boxers.
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the other "advantage " I have seen with byb boxers is they seem to have cast iron tummy's mine are rescues but before going to raw for my girls and finding out Busters allergy issues they could and did get switched dog food brands fairly often and never had the runs or other issues a lot of the pure breeds do when switching foods and I had a very smooth transition to raw with the girls
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