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rudynmagsmom · 12-28-2008, 12:08 PM

Hi has anyone heard of catcreekboxers? They are in Georgia. I was looking at their female boxer. If anyone knows anything let me know. Thanks

HannaBanana · 12-28-2008, 12:50 PM

They advertise on hoobly.com (not a good sign). They also have three litters all within a month. (another iffy). They also price their pups which looks like according to color (flash being a little bit more).

They say they health test but see on their bitch Gerogia that only a holter done, and her pedigree is a bit unknown. I try and make sure that all the proper testing was done and complete, as anyone can say they health test but they should be able to funish copies of the results

All in all - cannot really judge them by a website, but the things I pointed out above are starters to ask for more information.

rudynmagsmom · 12-28-2008, 04:57 PM

When you say the pedigree is iffy how do you mean? So I should ask if she has proof of the health testing? If someone has more than one litter at a time this is not good? It is so hard to find anyone. I understand why people who a looking for puppies get them at a BYB. There are a million out there. I was excited thinking that I had a good one....

NewtsMom · 12-28-2008, 05:03 PM

I know nothing But I do know this....If any of the Moderators suggest something.... 9 times outta 10 they are right. This place has been nothing but helpful to me. Good Luck and hope you get more posts on this topic! Oh.. and good luck finding a female boxer!!!

HannaBanana · 12-28-2008, 05:10 PM

I would request the hard copies on the health testing of the parents as well as see when they were done. Also how old is the parents? Most testing should be done around two years old, and I would prefer to see a holter done every year or every two after that. Also make sure they test for heart, thyroid and hips too.

Pedigree iffy meaning many dogs in pedigree from unknown kennels. When I see a dog who has Marlbobo Man as a dog in their lines, makes me wonder and hard to trace to see what and who they were. To me a pedigree is more of a health guarantee. You can see the lines of the pup, some familiar names, and trace them back to see if they are healthy, still living and if passed of what? Many dogs with kennel names are easy to trace, but ones like Marlbobo Man are not.

Who are Rukus and Cheyanne that are the momma of the puppies. She does not have the sire because on the home page it links his kennel, but there is no info on those two bitches - that were bred. Do they own them? Are they health tested? Having so many litters - three in a row back to back is not a good thing. It takes time and research to do a breeding, and many people who do tons of these breedings are looking for $$$ and not taking the breed into consideration - steps get missed, and more pups unwanted into this world.

Here is a link from Jennifer's Site that has some questions you should ask a breeder. Look thru them, and see how the breeder answers them. I think then you can make a firm decision on if they are the breeder for your or not. I simply cannot judge them from a site - as its not really fair to them without knowing things - however only pointed out some things from the site, that I would have to research further and get more info and answers before being ok with things!!

http://www.newcastleboxers.com/claims.shtml

http://www.newcastleboxers.com/breederquestions.shtml

JeanenesBoogerBabies · 12-28-2008, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rudynmagsmom

When you say the pedigree is iffy how do you mean? So I should ask if she has proof of the health testing? If someone has more than one litter at a time this is not good? It is so hard to find anyone. I understand why people who a looking for puppies get them at a BYB. There are a million out there. I was excited thinking that I had a good one....

I know it can seem very frustrating when you have the desire for one of these lovelies and yet, all you are surrounded by are BYB's...let me just say...BYB's don't always look like a nightmare kennel, ok? They can also be your sister in law who has "bred dogs for 20 years" but, (I found out later) never thought to have them health tested or any of that...it was very casual...I knew nothing about Boxers except what I heard from her...and you know what? We ADORE our babies...but, we've had health issues, seizures, possible heart trouble...and it can all be linked back to the Daddy, whom I also adore...but, I would not have done anything to encourage breeding him if I'd known that he had those kind of health issues...it not only adds up to a lot of resources...but, it breaks your heart...I've seen too many folks who have lost a treasured pup because they didn't realize that it is just asking for it to buy a pup from a casual breeder, or a pet store...I'd say another thing to look for, especially this time of year...is if they are touting that the pups will be "Ready in time for Christmas" at the very least, those folks are encouraging impulse buyers...which is very, very bad for the breed!

Hang in there...taking the time to do the research will greatly increase your odds of having a booger baby that lives a long healthy life! Few things are harder than watching the spirit of a Boxer trapped in an unhealthy body!

Blessings!

rudynmagsmom · 12-28-2008, 06:36 PM

Thanks I have some work to do!
I am researching the breeders this time. I lost my 5 year old boxer who I bought from a BYB. She was having seizures along with other things. It is very hard to watch....I dont want to ever do that again. So what I need to do is stop looking at the pictures of the puppies and research the breeder. The pedigree confuses me so I will go back and look at it. I am going to Jennifers sit and look at the questions and ask some of them. I dont care if it is a female or a male. I have this thing for white boxers. Right now I have a 3 year old white boxer. So I will keep doing my homework. Thanks for all your help
Lisa

HannaBanana · 12-28-2008, 07:42 PM

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So what I need to do is stop looking at the pictures of the puppies and research the breeder.

This is sooooo correct!!!! Def sniff them out and then you will know!!!! Good Luck!!!!

JeanenesBoogerBabies · 12-28-2008, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rudynmagsmom

I have this thing for white boxers. Right now I have a 3 year old white boxer. So I will keep doing my homework. Thanks for all your help
Lisa

Obviously I love White boxers!LOL! Good luck! It's so worth it!

samsonsmom · 12-29-2008, 09:16 AM

Ditto everything Heather said...Don't be swayed by pics...Ask questions, lots of them, believe me a reputable breeder will not hesitate to answer and in turn, will ask you plenty as well....I'll PM you a couple links too

12-28-2008, 12:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
rudynmagsmom Power User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Plymouth Maine Posts: 291	anyone know of Hi has anyone heard of catcreekboxers? They are in Georgia. I was looking at their female boxer. If anyone knows anything let me know. Thanks

12-28-2008, 12:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
HannaBanana BoxerForums Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,169	Re: anyone know of They advertise on hoobly.com (not a good sign). They also have three litters all within a month. (another iffy). They also price their pups which looks like according to color (flash being a little bit more). They say they health test but see on their bitch Gerogia that only a holter done, and her pedigree is a bit unknown. I try and make sure that all the proper testing was done and complete, as anyone can say they health test but they should be able to funish copies of the results All in all - cannot really judge them by a website, but the things I pointed out above are starters to ask for more information.

12-28-2008, 04:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
rudynmagsmom Power User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Plymouth Maine Posts: 291	Re: anyone know of When you say the pedigree is iffy how do you mean? So I should ask if she has proof of the health testing? If someone has more than one litter at a time this is not good? It is so hard to find anyone. I understand why people who a looking for puppies get them at a BYB. There are a million out there. I was excited thinking that I had a good one....

12-28-2008, 05:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
NewtsMom Super User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 1,925	Re: anyone know of I know nothing But I do know this....If any of the Moderators suggest something.... 9 times outta 10 they are right. This place has been nothing but helpful to me. Good Luck and hope you get more posts on this topic! Oh.. and good luck finding a female boxer!!! __________________ Newts Mom ~Vedra~ Female/Flashy Fawn

12-28-2008, 05:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
HannaBanana BoxerForums Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,169	Re: anyone know of I would request the hard copies on the health testing of the parents as well as see when they were done. Also how old is the parents? Most testing should be done around two years old, and I would prefer to see a holter done every year or every two after that. Also make sure they test for heart, thyroid and hips too. Pedigree iffy meaning many dogs in pedigree from unknown kennels. When I see a dog who has Marlbobo Man as a dog in their lines, makes me wonder and hard to trace to see what and who they were. To me a pedigree is more of a health guarantee. You can see the lines of the pup, some familiar names, and trace them back to see if they are healthy, still living and if passed of what? Many dogs with kennel names are easy to trace, but ones like Marlbobo Man are not. Who are Rukus and Cheyanne that are the momma of the puppies. She does not have the sire because on the home page it links his kennel, but there is no info on those two bitches - that were bred. Do they own them? Are they health tested? Having so many litters - three in a row back to back is not a good thing. It takes time and research to do a breeding, and many people who do tons of these breedings are looking for $$$ and not taking the breed into consideration - steps get missed, and more pups unwanted into this world. Here is a link from Jennifer's Site that has some questions you should ask a breeder. Look thru them, and see how the breeder answers them. I think then you can make a firm decision on if they are the breeder for your or not. I simply cannot judge them from a site - as its not really fair to them without knowing things - however only pointed out some things from the site, that I would have to research further and get more info and answers before being ok with things!! http://www.newcastleboxers.com/claims.shtml http://www.newcastleboxers.com/breederquestions.shtml

12-28-2008, 06:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
rudynmagsmom Power User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Plymouth Maine Posts: 291	Re: anyone know of Thanks I have some work to do! I am researching the breeders this time. I lost my 5 year old boxer who I bought from a BYB. She was having seizures along with other things. It is very hard to watch....I dont want to ever do that again. So what I need to do is stop looking at the pictures of the puppies and research the breeder. The pedigree confuses me so I will go back and look at it. I am going to Jennifers sit and look at the questions and ask some of them. I dont care if it is a female or a male. I have this thing for white boxers. Right now I have a 3 year old white boxer. So I will keep doing my homework. Thanks for all your help Lisa

12-29-2008, 09:16 AM	#10 (permalink)
samsonsmom BoxerForums Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: alabama Posts: 18,239	Re: anyone know of Ditto everything Heather said...Don't be swayed by pics...Ask questions, lots of them, believe me a reputable breeder will not hesitate to answer and in turn, will ask you plenty as well....I'll PM you a couple links too __________________ --WILLOW---Owned by *Angel 8/8/05 & Flick 3/8/08 Samson, waiting at the bridge 8/27/08

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