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Old 06-09-2015, 01:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Now, don't all you forum "fur baby mommies" take this the wrong way. :crazy eye:

But, is there a way to train your dog to be more aggressive, fight, stand his ground?

I ask this, as there has been a couple of situation with other dogs, where the other dogs have shown aggression and even jumped or came at Hank. Hank tends to cower and run away and submit. Would like for him to be a bit more aggressive, stand his ground, fight.

Just like I would like him to be a bit more protective if there is a threat to me, or other loved ones, to stand his ground and be protective.

Is there a good resource for training him on how to fight, when he should fight, and when he should not?
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Old 06-09-2015, 02:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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My cousin has a Shepard/husky mix a week older than Wyatt. When they play she's a very aggressive player, like hank Wyatt will submit to her. (Maybe bc she's a girl;-) and he's trying to be a gentlemen!) ha ha ha! Anyways I personally don't play rough with him but the bf does. I've never seen a "mean" boxer before. I think they are more lovers but if the time comes to defend their family/pack they will. In the house Wyatt and our min pin could care less about each other, neither pays the other one attention, but once we were all out for a walk together and a huge (about 30 lbs overweight) lab came up to penny(12 lbs) and Wyatt let him know to back off.

If it came to it hank would defend you, home, whatever but for now he will be a lovable playful pooch.
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Not so much concerned about my protection, as can take care of myself. But, thinking in the future, if I leave and give the dog to my parents. One of the benefits being to protect them a bit. Also, when my brother's dog pretty much, on two occasions snapped/attacked him, would like to see Hank stand his ground. I think if he did that, my Brother's dog would no try to be dominant.

Last night with a friend, we wrapped the friend's arm with a towel and were working on getting Hank to try and grab him, giving hims some training, down command, bite commands, etc. Doing a little boxing with him as well.

There was a good you tube video I watched awhile back, need to find it, about training a dog for personal protection/security/police work.
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When I was a young kid, long ago..our family had a GSD. My brothers and friends thought it funny to do this with him. Bad idea if you don't know what you are doing. For the most part the dog was good but he was a one man dog (my dad) if he wasn't around no problem. However one day my bothers friend came to the house and said go get your brother, dog heard go get, and he got me...my arm was pretty torn up....Not really the dogs fault though they use to tell him to go get em! He didn't know the difference, go get was his trigger.
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When I was a young kid, long ago..our family had a GSD. My brothers and friends thought it funny to do this with him. Bad idea if you don't know what you are doing. For the most part the dog was good but he was a one man dog (my dad) if he wasn't around no problem. However one day my bothers friend came to the house and said go get your brother, dog heard go get, and he got me...my arm was pretty torn up....Not really the dogs fault though they use to tell him to go get em! He didn't know the difference, go get was his trigger.
That is definitely something to be aware of. Yikes. Sorry to hear about that experience for you.

So far, Hank only does playful type bites. But, have had to do some training as well, to stop him from that. Of course, hard to explain in a message on a forum as to what an how we were doing. I think you are right, if I did want him to be trained as a protective/attack type dog, then he needs to have that professionally done. Have a friend, who used to do this for military service dogs.

I just want Hank though to learn to stand his ground with other dogs.
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I've never seen a "mean" boxer before.
OH??? Now when I said the same thing a long time...All the "problem dog" owners started posting!!

Just saying!

But for the record I" have not seen one either>
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My boxer can be mean sometime....she steals my seat when I get up to get a drink, she wines in the middle of the night so she can steal my pillow, she won't bring her ball back sometimes when playing, and she runs away from me in the back yard when she is not ready to come in.....she is so mean.
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At 8 months old, Hank is still a "teenager"
He would probably protect if a legitimate threat presented itself.

If you are serious about having him trained for protection then look up a professional for Schutshund Training.

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I understand what your are asking. And it's not a silly question but it does overlook a whole bunch of factors!

First an IPO or protection trained dog is not a run of the mill dog! First and far-most owning such a dog is a "lifestyle" your life revolves around your dog!

Dogs will be what you do! I have never seen "Hank" but if you keep doing what your doing it sounds like you have the makings of a "fear bitter!' A dog you can't predict and have no control of...please stop!

If you "wanted" a IPO/Protection trained dog and those are two different things. Then you got the wrong dog., wrong temperament and wrong Boxer!

If you wanted an IPO Boxer and you weren't trying to prove a point?? You should have got a Euro Boxer! Flat out Euros are the K9's in Boxer world!

Cliff vom Grand Kevin

End of story if IPO is your game you need a Euro in a Boxer! There is at least one of Kevin Von Cliff's off springs on here!!

If you look for K9 Boxer's in America, that site is where you end up! I was looking for an American Line K9 Boxers and the answer I found was uh 'NO" the American Line dogs are to "goofy" by and large. The K9's in American are all Euro's! Pretty much end of story!

Generally speaking there are three "personality" types in dogs and for those that are routinely go to Dog Parks...(not advised,) here is what you will see:

Three Dogs Who Shouldn’t Be at the Dog Park or Daycare | Robin Bennett

Timid these are dogs that tend to be victims! They are picked on, they will cower and they tend to run to there owners.

Balanced dogs, they don't start fights but they don't back down either! That was Struddell by and large if you go to a Dog Park if it happens to be filled with Balanced Dogs...you don't see issues!

And Dominate dogs! They are the trouble makers! They will challenge dogs! The "victim" will either submit or fight! A Dominate dogs does not care!!!

Clueless owners take "Dominate" dogs to the Dog Parks all the time! And an out of control Dominate dog will "KILL" a dog even if it does submit! A fight means "nothing to such dogs!! Good times, good times! If a timid dog has a run in with one...then most likely such an owner will have a fear bitter on his hands...your done! Get them before they get me! If your "lucky!"

If a balanced dog has a bad encounter?? With a good owner such a dog may or may not have a problem with other dogs in the future??

But a Dominate dog and clueless owner...yeah we'er good!

Struddel was a Balanced dog and "I" would not put her at risk of being hurt! Gunther Bull Mastiff/APBT/Lab and Rocky high rank drive, Dominate male dogs...yeah not dog material!! I" did not put other peoples dogs at risk some folks "Don't Care!"

Biut with a lot of work on my part, they were both safe around other dogs and people!

Gunther actually luved people...Rocky GSD...not so much!

So back to the topic at hand...please stop! You chose if not the wrong breed and type (non) Euro at best you got the wrong dog!

If you want to do the IPO/Protection thing??? First get a second dog and second educate your self! Join: German Shepherd Dog Forums hang out in the IPO threads! That is where you will find the people that know what they are doing!!!

I'm the Boxer guy there and yeah I get poked at but it's all good... luv my Boxers!

If you actually want and are willing to put in the time money and effort for a true "reliable" well trained "protection' dog get a GSD or a Malinois and good luck, your life will change!

Those breeds are where the numbers are but folks do use other breeds but by and large that is done by the truly committed trying to make a point!

But if you want to know if the dog you have will stand by you in need time of need? Then you need to do your part first! Protect your dog! You don't put him in a position where he has to defend himself!!! You protect your dog!

If an owner "routinely" puts there dog in a position where he, is liable to get his butt kicked??? What good are you??? Why should I put myself at risk to save you (the dog thinks)???

I protect my dogs! They understand that, I don't "proof" them but on a walk one day when charged by "two dogs" this is what happened:
German Shepherd Dog Forums - View Single Post - What would my dog do?

I'll contend that "any" dog similarly trained will perform the same! Would they do the same with a human with bad intentions?? Don't know???But that would not be my problem!
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I understand what your are asking. And it's not a silly question but it does overlook a whole bunch of factors!

First an IPO or protection trained dog is not a run of the mill dog! First and far-most owning such a dog is a "lifestyle" your life revolves around your dog!

Dogs will be what you do! I have never seen "Hank" but if you keep doing what your doing it sounds like you have the makings of a "fear bitter!' A dog you can't predict and have no control of...please stop!

If you "wanted" a IPO/Protection trained dog and those are two different things. Then you got the wrong dog., wrong temperament and wrong Boxer!

If you wanted an IPO Boxer and you weren't trying to prove a point?? You should have got a Euro Boxer! Flat out Euros are the K9's in Boxer world!

Cliff vom Grand Kevin

End of story if IPO is your game you need a Euro in a Boxer! There is at least one of Kevin Von Cliff's off springs on here!!

If you look for K9 Boxer's in America, that site is where you end up! I was looking for an American Line K9 Boxers and the answer I found was uh 'NO" the American Line dogs are to "goofy" by and large. The K9's in American are all Euro's! Pretty much end of story!

Generally speaking there are three "personality" types in dogs and for those that are routinely go to Dog Parks...(not advised,) here is what you will see:

Three Dogs Who Shouldn’t Be at the Dog Park or Daycare | Robin Bennett

Timid these are dogs that tend to be victims! They are picked on, they will cower and they tend to run to there owners.

Balanced dogs, they don't start fights but they don't back down either! That was Struddell by and large if you go to a Dog Park if it happens to be filled with Balanced Dogs...you don't see issues!

And Dominate dogs! They are the trouble makers! They will challenge dogs! The "victim" will either submit or fight! A Dominate dogs does not care!!!

Clueless owners take "Dominate" dogs to the Dog Parks all the time! And an out of control Dominate dog will "KILL" a dog even if it does submit! A fight means "nothing to such dogs!! Good times, good times! If a timid dog has a run in with one...then most likely such an owner will have a fear bitter on his hands...your done! Get them before they get me! If your "lucky!"

If a balanced dog has a bad encounter?? With a good owner such a dog may or may not have a problem with other dogs in the future??

But a Dominate dog and clueless owner...yeah we'er good!

Struddel was a Balanced dog and "I" would not put her at risk of being hurt! Gunther Bull Mastiff/APBT/Lab and Rocky high rank drive, Dominate male dogs...yeah not dog material!! I" did not put other peoples dogs at risk some folks "Don't Care!"

Biut with a lot of work on my part, they were both safe around other dogs and people!

Gunther actually luved people...Rocky GSD...not so much!

So back to the topic at hand...please stop! You chose if not the wrong breed and type (non) Euro at best you got the wrong dog!

If you want to do the IPO/Protection thing??? First get a second dog and second educate your self! Join: German Shepherd Dog Forums hang out in the IPO threads! That is where you will find the people that know what they are doing!!!

I'm the Boxer guy there and yeah I get poked at but it's all good... luv my Boxers!

If you actually want and are willing to put in the time money and effort for a true "reliable" well trained "protection' dog get a GSD or a Malinois and good luck, your life will change!

Those breeds are where the numbers are but folks do use other breeds but by and large that is done by the truly committed trying to make a point!

But if you want to know if the dog you have will stand by you in need time of need? Then you need to do your part first! Protect your dog! You don't put him in a position where he has to defend himself!!! You protect your dog!

If an owner "routinely" puts there dog in a position where he, is liable to get his butt kicked??? What good are you??? Why should I put myself at risk to save you (the dog thinks)???

I protect my dogs! They understand that, I don't "proof" them but on a walk one day when charged by "two dogs" this is what happened:
German Shepherd Dog Forums - View Single Post - What would my dog do?

I'll contend that "any" dog similarly trained will perform the same! Would they do the same with a human with bad intentions?? Don't know???But that would not be my problem!


Chip, Hank is actually 1/2 pure Euro Boxer. His traits and mannerisms (from what I have seen and read up on) and his look, resemble his father, a pure bred Euro Boxer with a long genealogy of Euro Boxers, trained for protection.
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