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Old 08-26-2010, 06:47 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Just curious how you know the history/background of this dog, the breeder and/or the family or if you have read this information somewhere. If you know this dog and or the family perhaps you would know if this dog was kept chained up most of its life and if so why? Were they using the dog for breeding?
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Old 08-26-2010, 06:53 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I feel horrible for both families and even worse for the child and boxer... Neither youngling really had proper supervision and something was bound to happen...
what makes me even more disgusted is the content of some commentary on the news sites...
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Old 08-26-2010, 07:26 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Just curious how you know the history/background of this dog, the breeder and/or the family or if you have read this information somewhere. If you know this dog and or the family perhaps you would know if this dog was kept chained up most of its life and if so why? Were they using the dog for breeding?

I am aware of the breeder/family and have gotten my information from the things they have said since the incident.

To my knowledge, prior to being sold he was not kept chained, but was also not socialized well - this is my opinion obviously - others may disagree. But he lived in a large fenced area with an attached shelter with other dogs and was used for breeding. He has puppies out there. I never personally touched the dog so I can't say in detail what his personality was like.

The tragedy is the loss of this innocent little girl. It was avoidable on so many levels in my opinion.

If you are a "breeder" and you sell an animal that KILLS an innocent child, you really need to re-evaluate your situation. Are you adequately screening the people you sell to? Are you spending enough time socializing the animals you sell and teaching them to be good "family citizens?" Are you really working with the right stock to begin with?
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If you are a "breeder" and you sell an animal that KILLS an innocent child, you really need to re-evaluate your situation. Are you adequately screening the people you sell to? Are you spending enough time socializing the animals you sell and teaching them to be good "family citizens?" Are you really working with the right stock to begin with?
IMHO I think every breeder needs to ask these questions particularly about screeing the people you sell to. Too often with BYB there is no attempt made to screen at all beyond 'do you have the money to pay for the puppy?'

Being involved in rescue we often hear comments that we are TOO PICKY who we adopt our dogs to. I have said a thousand times we make no appologies for that. We know these dogs need special owners who are aware of the needs of the boxer breed and we never, never want our dogs chained in anyones back yard. Poor breeding and put in the wrong hands, and in the wrong circumstances our boxers can in deed become dangerous dogs. It is true with any breed.

Just as important....... to the people who are breeding without taking into account the temperment history of the line...you are doing our beloved boxer breed a huge disfavor. Please leave boxer breeding to those that are breeding only for the purpose of bettering the breed and not to line your pocket or a variety of other nieve reasons. And PLEASE if you are thinking of buying a puppy, do not support these types of breeders.
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This is sad, very sad... no kid should have to lose their life due to poor parenting.

I don't think it's really fair to blame any breed in this case... especially any type of "bully breed" looking dog such as pit bulls or boxers... the breed is not important, the child shouldn't have been left alone with the animal... PERIOD.

When I was 2 years old, a cocker spaniel nearly ripped my cheek off, unprovoked... 3 weeks later, the same dog bit another kid in the neck and nearly killed him. Breed doesn't matter, any breed can do any amount to damage to anyone.
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My father was a friend of John Wagner, Mazelaine Kennels in Milwaukee, WI. I suspect they were drinking buddies for the most part. Dad's first dog from that kennel was Gus. He was from great lines. My older brother was an infant in a buggy on the front porch. A neighbor child, unsupervised, approached the porch. Gus guarded, and took a hard bite to that child's head trying to protect the crib my brother was in. No serious injury, but the dog needed to be relocated.

I'm following the WI story with interest. Who would leave a young child alone in a yard with a dog? Stupid, the dog may be tied up, but the child can run into the dog's space.
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Old 08-27-2010, 02:02 PM   #27 (permalink)
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i read the article..... the baby girl was in the backyard with the male dog that attacked her and the puppies that he sired..... PUPPIES> for gods sake. So not only are they breeding they leave a baby in the yard with a male dog and his pups???? i assume the female was there too. Would any of u think that perhaps the 2 year old was playing with the puppies and the male attacked her to "protect" the pups??? any thoughts?
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i meant four year old girl sorry
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I think that it was just the male boxer and the child if i remember the story correctly...
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i read the article..... the baby girl was in the backyard with the male dog that attacked her and the puppies that he sired.....
I didn't hear anything about puppies being in the back yard...could you post the link to the article you read?
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