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Old 01-22-2011, 10:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Our temp is zero degrees with a minus zero wind chill right now. My dogs go out to do their business and right back in or their feet start to freeze up. How long does it take in these conditions for a 4 month old (ole english bull dog) to freeze to death out there? I called the animal shelter because my neighbors little one was outside barking when I let mine out to potty this morning and 30-40 minutes later he was still outside crying. There is no shelter for him, he just sits by their back door crying.
This is the same puppy I went to the owners door and tried to talk to them when she was on 6-8 weeks old & they slammed the door in my face. (there is an old thread about that) I am very very concerned for the little one and don't know what to do! Animal shelter said they can't come out because they finally let the puppy back in while I was on the phone with them. I asked the animal shelter to at least come out and talk to them about the dangers of the weather elements and the fact that she is also let out their front door often and unattended with no fence in the front and she is always out by the road when I come home from work.
There was recently an adult dog that froze to death after the neighbors waited several days before calling in thier concerns & I don't want that situation to happen with this little girl. Ugh!!! I am just so frustrated right now I can't see straight!!!
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Oh goodness....I would be making some phone calls or heck even go get that baby and bring him in...poor thing! There has got to be someone who will listen, trouble is, I wouldn't know who! That baby deserves better than the treatment he is receiving now...good luck, keep us posted!
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Old 01-22-2011, 11:43 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Call the police,not the shelter. Perhaps even take video of the situation. The police will have to log the call and if this happens a few times perhaps something will be done. Hopefully it won't be too late for the little one. Here is a link to the statutes that constitute cruelty to animals under Ohio law. Your neighbor is breaking the law.


http://www.animallaw.info/statutes/s...01_99.htm#s131

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Old 01-22-2011, 11:56 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Ugh! Who else can I call??? I wanted to bring her in by my fireplace but the last time they left her out like that I was informed that I could be arrested if I try to help her like that. I have made and made calls believe me and nobody wants to do anything for her...they never come out here when she is actually out there freezing like that. When you can get them to come out on a call the owners see the truck pull up and let her in and tell them oh, she was only out there to potty-we don't leave her out there very long and off the animal shelter goes back to their warm office without another thought about her.
If it happens again after noon when they are closed I will call 911 and report it to them. I just don't know what else to do and I don't want to see on the news that she froze to death out there and people wonder why didn't the neighbors call or do anything for her besides the fact that no animal deserves that treatment! The little fella I called on that was chained out in this cold with no house or anything and curled up in a little ball on a concrete step in November died recently from the elements and it makes me sick because of the amount of times I have reported that owner over the past 3 years for neglect (in the summer too) and nothing got done about it now it's too late for him. Sorry for the venting but I am soooooo angry right now that they may have to arrest me sometime today if it continues! Oh and it's up to a whopping 5 degrees now so not looking like it's going to warm up much anytime soon either.
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o my goodness. Don't know what you are suppose to do but I would call the cops tell them this happens all the time and have video of the pup. I also would probally end up getting arrested..cause I would bring him in. Who knows if they would notice he was gone. Good luck keep venting if you want we are here for you.
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That is why I am suggesting you video her - if you're machine has a date/time stamp you could show how long the poor baby has been out there.

I know it is frustrating. We have a neighbor with an elderly dog they leave out to roam and who also poops and pees on everyone's lawn, plus she is out in the elements barking to come in for hours!

Take care and if you really find that the dog is suffering and looks about to expire from the elements, knock on the door again or, heck with the police, grab the dog!
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Next time that poor baby is in the front unattended try to call it over to your side and bring it in. Can't do anything if the dog is loose.
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I am keeping an eye out for her while I am home all weekend and with a fire in the fireplace I can hear her barking through the chimeny. I don't have a video recorder that I can do that with, just cell phone for like 3 min at a time. If she is out there suffering I will call the police and/or go get her and just take my punishment like a big girl. How long is too long for her to be out there though? I thought 30-40min was way too long.
I have spoke with the man that lives there several times at the fence and he always seems drunker than a skunk, he asks me everytime he sees me what kind of dog Kosmo is & I tell him a boxer & he says wow really, he's the biggest boxer I've ever seen are you sure he's not a bull mastif. Then he asks if Karma is a pitbull & if Toby is a english bulldog... I tell him what they all are & he can't even remember that for 24 hours, how is he going to remember that puppy is outside! He slurs when he talks and staggers around with a rolled up newspaper after the puppy if he's out front when she tries to go toward the road. The wife won't speak to me anymore since I went to their door that day about the pup. They have a little chihuahua over there too but I don't see much of her outside ever. Thanks for letting me vent
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It's ok. Maybe you could over there with a bottle of Jack and make a trade. Seriously, he and his wife sound like winners to me. Hang in there and vent away!
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Next time that poor baby is in the front unattended try to call it over to your side and bring it in. Can't do anything if the dog is loose.
Really, I think they can if you know who it belongs to...my bestfriend took in a Boston she kept finding running the streets in her neighborhood after returning the dog 3 times to it's owner she just said f*** it I'm keeping her...they cops came to her door with the animal shelter and threatened to take her off to jail if she didn't give that dog back to it's owner since she knew who the owner was. Now this woman is not afraid to stand up for herself and she got into quite an arguement with them because they wouldn't come out when she had been reporting the owner but they couldn't get there quick enough when the owner called on her, I had to go bail her butt out that day over all that mess because she couldn't stop runnin her mouth to the police so they arrested her. Next time she found her roaming the streets she pulled up in her car, loaded her up and headed out of town to a realitive that took and kept her and when they came back to her door she said she hadn't seen her since she got home from jail. I guess my point is that there is more than one way to skin a cat Maybe I can borrow a video camera from my x-husband and tape it and send it to this news station we have that acts on things like this.
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