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Old 12-15-2012, 09:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 12-15-2012, 09:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
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This is a hard one for me because Im on the rescue side of things and see too many unwanted Boxers in shelters abused and neglected or dumped I really dont even see the need to breed.

Have you had him health tested? There are many tests one should do before even considering breeding a dog male or female

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Prepared for a lot of backlash on this post. NO ONE on this site condones breeding and breeding without having all of the necessary genetic tests done on your dog. Why do you want to breed? Is it just a male thing? Lol I say that because hubby and I are having our 8 mo old neutered soon and early early on he brought this same thing up to me. I squashed that REAL fast! Why do you want to add to the over population of pets? There are so many irresponsible pple out there that will buy a puppy and it will end up in a shelter because they can't handle this breeds exercise and health requirements. Why would you want to add to that? Also probably the biggest issue? Do you have an idea his parents and grandparents genetics and health background? Have you spent the hundreds, if not thousands of dollars to get his eyes, hips, and heart certified for no defects? What's his parents/ line's history of cancer. This breed gets cancer at a VERY young age at a very high statistical rate. Why would you want to worsen the breed? AKC lines mean nothing, as does a regular vet check up- you need ALL the tests done before you even CONSIDER to stud him, otherwise you are just a backyard breeder


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How can you have 210 posts on this forum and NOT know that this kind of question is gonna rile the masses here? Irresponsible breeding is highly frowned upon. AKC papers and a basic vet check do NOT mean you should breed your dog. There is so much more that goes into it....all kinds of health testing, mentoring first with an established REPUTABLE breeder.

I'm sorry, but I'm in rescue and I've been busting my ass the last several months networking boxers dumped in shelters. The numbers this year are staggering and they're growing every day. And every night I cry over the countless boxers that didn't find rescue or adopters and were put to sleep.

So do us all a favor. DON'T breed your dog just 'cuz it seems like it'd be a "neat" thing to do. I don't want me or my friends to have to clean up another mess made by an irresponsible breeding.

If you think I'm kidding, go to your local shelter and volunteer to help in the euthanasia room for an afternoon.
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Also, are you looking to better the breed? Is he in conformation classes? He may be beautiful, but how do you know he meets this breed's standards. We all think our dogs are beautiful, but should they be bred, absolutely NOT! I strongly strongly strongly urge you to do your homework and really think about this - and get all the necessary tests done before you do this. It really isn't a good idea, and my heart hurts thinking of all the poor dogs in shelters, where their parent's owners were just like you. Dogs get put in shelters and get put to sleep, just because someone thought it was a good idea to breed.


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How can you have 210 posts on this forum and NOT know that this kind of question is gonna rile the masses here? Irresponsible breeding is highly frowned upon. AKC papers and a basic vet check do NOT mean you should breed your dog. There is so much more that goes into it....all kinds of health testing, mentoring first with an established REPUTABLE breeder.

I'm sorry, but I'm in rescue and I've been busting my ass the last several months networking boxers dumped in shelters. The numbers this year are staggering and they're growing every day. And every night I cry over the countless boxers that didn't find rescue or adopters and were put to sleep.

So do us all a favor. DON'T breed your dog just 'cuz it seems like it'd be a "neat" thing to do. I don't want me or my friends to have to clean up another mess made by an irresponsible breeding.

If you think I'm kidding, go to your local shelter and volunteer to help in the euthanasia room for an afternoon.

Thanks Cait!

I also say volunteer in the euthanasia room. I tell many people that.
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Thanks for the heartfelt intelligent replies. The rant I can do without. I posted the question to see if anyone felt the same, not for confirmation. I know it would get a few excited, but that's the beauty of these forums. I'm definitely aware of the risk and would make an educated decision if I ever did.


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When I first got Pheona, I'd have people at the vets office (other patients not staff) asking if I was going to breed her. Told them flat out...we got her for a companion pet not a money maker pet. Breeding has never been anything I have wanted to do as I don't see my fur babies in that way. Since we've gotten Murphy, it's been the round of same questions (aside from the people guessing what breed she is..naming everything but boxer). I guess some people see owning a purebreed pup as meaning you should breed him/her.
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Thanks for the heartfelt intelligent replies. The rant I can do without. I posted the question to see if anyone felt the same, not for confirmation. I know it would get a few excited, but that's the beauty of these forums. I'm definitely aware of the risk and would make an educated decision if I ever did.


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So by educated decision you mean show him, get points on him, thoroughly health test him? If you're not going to do these things you are not helping the breed. You are creating more sick Boxers. Also, where did you get him from?


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Some of the rescuers have pretty much covered most all the reasons why breeding could be a very bad thing but I would like to take you to another view if I may. Breeding responsibly also entails securing solid loving homes for a lifetime of your litter whether you are providing sire or dam. Given that, my question to you is, are you prepared to keep, raise and provide for any pups that you aren't able to place? I can tell you from personal experience because I made this very mistake that raising a pack of pups is beyond challenging and I'm a full time, stay at home mom and caretaker. I can't imagine what I would have done if I worked full time.

I can't turn my back for 5 minutes without one of my pack of pups getting into or destroying something. Everything I own has to be secured the minute I want to get up to even go to the bathroom. The vet bills have been astronomical from whelp to neuter / spay. The feed bills have quadrupled since my girl whelped the litter and will continue to get larger as my pups grow.

If I want to go out of the house for a few hours I have to hire my son to babysit the litter and if we wanted to go out as a family I'd have to hire the neighbor kid to come in and sit with them. Right now while they are going through their teenage angst, I can't even eat dinner at the table unless the weather is nice enough to allow my pack to be outside for a bit.

My point is, beyond the damage that could be caused by sending pups out into the world, if you are prepared to take care of the ones you can't place, you'd better be ready for a major life changing commitment. Just because you don't have the dam doesn't mean your responsibility ends with providing sperm.
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