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Old 09-12-2009, 11:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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My boxer Venus is almost 5 months old and I noticed in her stool she had some little white worms. The vet said that she probably swallowed a flea and that caused them and they gave us some medicine for that. BY the way she is on frontline once a month. I gave her the medicine this Wednesday. This past Monday I switched her food. I was feeding her Purina Puppy Chow, I know after reading on Boxerworld and Dogfoodanalysis that Purina is not good. So I needed something within a reasonable price and I switched to Nature's Recipe Lamb and Rice. I still haven't finished the transition. The past two days she when she wakes up in the morning she coughs like she is trying to get something up but nothing comes out most of the time, one time some white mucus came out, not to much though. When I have her on her leash she likes to pull if she see another dog or person, I don't know if that would make her cough. Then she is fine and does not do it again, she is very active, she is eating. Also I noticed in her stool this morning there were a couple little streaks of blood, not alot. So there are a few things going on between the worms and food switch I guess could be causing this. I will watch her stool to see if I see anymore blood. The vet is closed today, I will for sure call Monday morning but in the mean time I would like to get some of your responses.
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Old 09-12-2009, 12:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Was she given a dewormer? That's step one. Ask for Panacur, it kills most worms although sometimes you need to give it a few times. And then recheck to make sure worms are gone. Getting rid of worms can be difficult but that should clear up the issues hopefully.
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Old 09-12-2009, 12:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Wow, you have tons going on here.

Um, what concerns me is your vet assumes it may be a flea? Worms in stools are common for puppies but I would personally want to know what kind of worm it was, get the proper antibiotic to fix the problem and set up a follow up stool analysis to make sure all parasites/worms are gone.

On the food, keep up with the transition, NR is a good food. Also I like to add in a fish oil or some canned sardines packed in h2O to give some omega 3s and 6s to boost the immune system. Young puppies have very weak immune systems hence why they catch a lot of stuff. By adding in a fish oil (salmon oil) or mixing in some sardines into their kibble, you are helping to boost it - and also providing a great way to natually condition their coat.

Sometimes the coughing could be a reverse sneeze which can be caused by many things. As long as it not persistant or she is not constantly vomiting, I would not worry that much. If she does it all the time, everyday, then I would mention it to your vet.

Its common for puppies to pull esp at the 5month stage. I still go thru it with a 2.5 year old. Have you taken basic obedience classes with her? If not, then I highly suggest doing so. They will teach you how to loose leash walk, and add in distractions such as people and other dogs. By taking the class you get practice with an instructor on how to cut out the pulling. If she is choking herself on these walks you may also want to try a front clip harness that takes the pressure off the neck and allows you to control the dog from the chest. Easy Walk Harness if a great aid when trying to deal with pulling -http://www.premier.com/View.aspx?page=dogs/products/behavior/easywalk/productdescription But remember this is only an aid, and constant practice and training will alllow you walk your dog normally on a buckle collar and leash.

Lets see what else - blood in the stool here and there esp if not alot is common. Most likly associated with straining and stress. If its constant then def tell the vet about that.
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Wow, you have tons going on here.

Um, what concerns me is your vet assumes it may be a flea? Worms in stools are common for puppies but I would personally want to know what kind of worm it was, get the proper antibiotic to fix the problem and set up a follow up stool analysis to make sure all parasites/worms are gone.

On the food, keep up with the transition, NR is a good food. Also I like to add in a fish oil or some canned sardines packed in h2O to give some omega 3s and 6s to boost the immune system. Young puppies have very weak immune systems hence why they catch a lot of stuff. By adding in a fish oil (salmon oil) or mixing in some sardines into their kibble, you are helping to boost it - and also providing a great way to natually condition their coat.

Sometimes the coughing could be a reverse sneeze which can be caused by many things. As long as it not persistant or she is not constantly vomiting, I would not worry that much. If she does it all the time, everyday, then I would mention it to your vet.

Its common for puppies to pull esp at the 5month stage. I still go thru it with a 2.5 year old. Have you taken basic obedience classes with her? If not, then I highly suggest doing so. They will teach you how to loose leash walk, and add in distractions such as people and other dogs. By taking the class you get practice with an instructor on how to cut out the pulling. If she is choking herself on these walks you may also want to try a front clip harness that takes the pressure off the neck and allows you to control the dog from the chest. Easy Walk Harness if a great aid when trying to deal with pulling -http://www.premier.com/View.aspx?page=dogs/products/behavior/easywalk/productdescription But remember this is only an aid, and constant practice and training will alllow you walk your dog normally on a buckle collar and leash.

Lets see what else - blood in the stool here and there esp if not alot is common. Most likly associated with straining and stress. If its constant then def tell the vet about that.
When I called the vet they asked me to describe the worm and I did and they told me to come pick up 2 pills and give it to her. I can't remember at the moment what the medicine was called.

I hope she does good on this new food because she sure loves it and she eats all her food. With the Purina she would leave some of it. I will definately try some of the supplements.

As for the coughing she has only done it two days when she first wakes up. Hopefully she doe not do it anymore.

I haven't done any classes with her yet but I want to look into it.

Thanks for yall advice.
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Well, she is doing much better today, the medicine must have worked bc it looks like the worms are gone from what I can see and as for the little streaks of blood I seen that one time that is gone to.

I am still worried about the cough she has. It is in the morning when she first wakes up and last a couple hours and now it is at night before we all go to bed. I called the vet this morning and the only opening they have is for tommorow so we will be going tommorow at 2:00. She has not been around any other dogs to have kennel cough but I guess anything is possible or it could be a cold. Or could she have a allergy to the new food, is that possible? It is Nature's Recipe Lamb and Rice. Could an allergy to the food make her cough like that or would there be more going on if it were an allergy?

Thanks for all your responses.
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I just got back from the vet with Venus and he check her lungs, heart, her throat, her stomach and he said she sounds perfect. It is not kennel cough. He asked if we recently moved where she sleeps and we moved her kennel about 1 month ago into our room and we do sleep with it pretty cool at night. He said that could make her do that. Or he said it might be just an allergy to something. He does not think its the new food. I did change her shampoo last week. He gave me 2 weeks of an antihistamine to give her and to make sure there is no air blowing on her at night. If it is not cleared up in 2 weeks then we will do xrays and blood work but he really thinks that she is very healthy.
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Changed her shampoo last week? How often do you bathe her?
Boxers, and most dogs do not need frequent baths. Most people only bathe their dogs if they get into something smelly or really really dirty. Mine might get 2 or 3 baths a year.
A good brushing will remove dirt and distribute oils through the coat. Bathing strips the hair of the oils and can lead to dry skin, itching and more dandruff.
Good luck with the other stuff! What did the vet have to say about blood in the stool?
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Well, she is doing much better today, the medicine must have worked bc it looks like the worms are gone from what I can see and as for the little streaks of blood I seen that one time that is gone to.

I am still worried about the cough she has. It is in the morning when she first wakes up and last a couple hours and now it is at night before we all go to bed. I called the vet this morning and the only opening they have is for tommorow so we will be going tommorow at 2:00. She has not been around any other dogs to have kennel cough but I guess anything is possible or it could be a cold. Or could she have a allergy to the new food, is that possible? It is Nature's Recipe Lamb and Rice. Could an allergy to the food make her cough like that or would there be more going on if it were an allergy?

Thanks for all your responses.
Is she in her bed and asleep when you notice the coughing on a night and morning - that would suggest an allergy in the area she is settling.
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Old 09-17-2009, 10:47 AM   #9 (permalink)
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At night she is not in her bed when she starts. But everyday it gets a little earlier in the evening when she starts coughing. Now she is waking up in the middle of the night coughing and early in the morning. I don't know what to think. I gave her medicine before bed but doe not seem to help yet. I washed all her blankets without detergent and I put a blanket over her crate so the air will not blow on her at night.
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Old 09-17-2009, 07:44 PM   #10 (permalink)
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As you mentioned worms in your first post - I'm wondering could it be heart worm?? This can cause the coughing you describe. Arbie has had coughing from allergies, upper respiratory tract infection. I'd take her back to the vet - did they run a full faecal on her? and blood tests - that will show if the worm is present. Prayers you get answers soon [-O<
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