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Old 03-02-2010, 07:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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About two weeks ago I noticed a strong smell coming from Cane's ears and a fairly large amount of brown "wax" in both ears.* I cleaned them out a couple of times but the wax keeps coming back and the smell does not go away.* Shortly after I noticed the ear issue he started to scratch and bite himself an awful lot.* I already had an appointment scheduled for his last round of vaccines so I figured I would just bring it up to the Vet then.* Well, a couple of days before the appt. I noticed a small bald spot (about 1/4 inch across) and with a small red spot right in the middle and he would not quit scratching at it.

Fast forward to yesterday for his appt.* I told the Vet about the stinky, waxy ears and he didn't think too much of it.* He looked inside just with the naked eye and took a big sniff from one of the ears.* I told him that I had read that the smell along with the wax could mean either ear mites or ear infection* He just explained that it could mean many things and that the ears are in some way irritated which is causing excess ear wax build-up which then causes the bad smell.* He gave me an ear wash that I am supposed to use once every two days.* It is an anti-bacterial and anti-fungal wash and he said should keep the ears clean.

When I showed him the spot in his leg that Cane had been scratching at he seemed to show a lot more concern and immediately said he needed to do a scraping.* With the Vet tech's and my help to hold Cane still he proceeded to scrape at the spot.* He took off a lot of hair and really seemed to irritate it a lot and it started bleeding.* He put the scraping on a slide and proceeded to check it out and said that there was no signs of mites there.* He still seemed to think that it was mange and told me to keep an eye on the spot and f it gets any worse within a week or two to take Cane back in.* He was hoping that it is not mange because he said that for mange he prescribes a two month treatment plan that can sometimes be harsh on the dog. So what was a relatively small spot is now a hairless spot about the size of a dime and the red spot in the middle is now about 3-4 times the original size.* I am guessing this is normal when a scraping is being performed but am a little concerned that no diagnosis was really made.* Cane is still scratching and biting a lot, mainly on his legs, not just that one spot.

I am still wondering if it might be ear mites as I have read that if the infestation gets really bad that they can spread to other parts of the body and cause a lot of itching.* Funny thing is though his ears do not seem to be bothering him at all, no itching or excess shaking of the head.* Anyone else experience anything similar to what I am explaining?* Could it be some sort of alergy?* A lot of weeds are sprouting up early due to a very mild winter and he just loves to run through them. Lol** I am definitely going to keep a close eye on him but am just looking for a little bit of insight in the meantime.

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Old 03-02-2010, 08:04 AM   #2 (permalink)
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It sounds like to me your dog has allergies to something, most likely his food. This could cause the itching and the ear issue. What kind of food are you feeding your dog?
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I feed him what the Vet recommended, Science Diet Puppy Small Bites.
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Here is some information I have found online and since boxers are really prone to food allergies and allergies in general you may want to investigate it further. Many boxers and dogs are allergic to grains so possibly you may need to switch his food. I feed raw in order to avoid some of these issues but other people on here may have some good dry food suggestions.

Do you often see your dog scratching its ears, shaking its head, or are very irritable with its ears? If so, it could be is suffering from a case of ear infection. Ear infection in dogs can be caused by a lot of factors. It could be due to ear mites, bacterial infections, food allergies, unhealthy environments, and improper dog hygiene.
Ear infection in dogs calls for medical attention. While some cases of this disease may heal naturally, veterinarians should be involved in the treatment process. It is essential to treat dog ear infection the moment it starts so as not to worsen your dog's condition. All dog owners have to be well-informed about this disease.
There are three types of ear infection in dogs – the outer ear infection, middle ear infection, and the inner ear infection. It is easy to know if your dog has an outer ear infection. You'll often see the symptoms of this disease, which is usually characterized by inflammation and foul-smelling wax discharge.
Both the middle ear and inner ear are regarded to be more severe than outer ear infection. These types of ear concerns in dogs require the help of a veterinarian because the condition can easily get worse and are often not curable unless special treatment procedures are carried out.


5. Food intolerance and allergies

Ear infections can be caused by your dog's irritation to certain foods. You know this is the cause of the problem if your dog's ear infection keeps on recurring. Try to recall the food items that your dog had eaten prior. These are the most common culprits. Try not to feed them to your dog and see if the infection would recur.

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Another thing it could possibly be is yeast in your dogs ears. It can cause a smell and cause itching.
In fact, I just had my pup in for itchy ears. They did a swab and even sent it in to the States leading vet school to have it analized. Came back normal luckily, so now we know it is an allergy of some sort and we are testing for that also.
Yeast can affect the skin and ears. I would have your vet do a culture for this just to rule it out. He can't tell just by looking, it needs to be swabed and tested. Good luck and I hope they get it figured out, I know how frustrating it is!
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Our neighbors dog had something like this and they said they routinely cleaned them with a little vinegar? to keep at bay, vinegar does help yeast, not vet advice, but home remedy that worked for my neighbor?
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I have to say I am utterly appalled at the fact that your vet did not culture the ear exudate since you say there is a "waxy" substance. Hannah had an ear issue which I thought was wax. She kept shaking her head, shaking it to the point where she hit her ear on something and ended up with an ear hematoma. It's not pretty, believe me. She had to have surgery to repair it. I am sick and so angry with myself that I thought it was "just" earwax. When I took her to the vet at the point she developed the hematoma, the vet took a culture of the ear exudate. Turns out she had 3 different bacteria in her ear!!! 3!!!

Do yourself and your dog a favor and find a new vet. Just the fact that you are saying your dog is shaking, itching, responsible protocol would be to do a culture. That way you'll know whether you're dealing with bacteria, yeast or both. It is often hard to tell whether an odor is yeast or infection. Failure to treat an infection can lead to deafness.

If after finding the cause of the odor and/or itching and treatment your dog is still itching, you may want to try a grain- and potato-free food. Heck, anything else would be better than Science Diet. Do your own research -- your dog's life depends on it. Most vets don't know a thing about nutrition. Grains, carbs and anything in the niteshade family (potatoes, tomatoes, eggplant and others exacerbate inflammation as well as feed yeast.)

Good luck to you, and keep us posted.
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I have some Pyrethrin that my brother used on his dog when he had ticks and have read that it kills all types of pests, including mites so I think I am going to use it on him. The weird thing about the ears is that he doesn't seem to be scratching at them at all or shaking his head a lot but he is still biting and scratching mostly on his legs. I just did a full body inspection on him and there are a couple other small bald spots near the original one on his front leg. We have been using this vet for years with all of our family animals and he has never steered us wrong before but I might have to get a second opinion after reading some responses here.
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I have to say I am utterly appalled at the fact that your vet did not culture the ear exudate since you say there is a "waxy" substance. Hannah had an ear issue which I thought was wax. She kept shaking her head, shaking it to the point where she hit her ear on something and ended up with an ear hematoma. It's not pretty, believe me. She had to have surgery to repair it. I am sick and so angry with myself that I thought it was "just" earwax. When I took her to the vet at the point she developed the hematoma, the vet took a culture of the ear exudate. Turns out she had 3 different bacteria in her ear!!! 3!!!

Do yourself and your dog a favor and find a new vet. Just the fact that you are saying your dog is shaking, itching, responsible protocol would be to do a culture. That way you'll know whether you're dealing with bacteria, yeast or both. It is often hard to tell whether an odor is yeast or infection. Failure to treat an infection can lead to deafness.

If after finding the cause of the odor and/or itching and treatment your dog is still itching, you may want to try a grain- and potato-free food. Heck, anything else would be better than Science Diet. Do your own research -- your dog's life depends on it. Most vets don't know a thing about nutrition. Grains, carbs and anything in the niteshade family (potatoes, tomatoes, eggplant and others exacerbate inflammation as well as feed yeast.)

Good luck to you, and keep us posted.
I totally agree with this!
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I have some Pyrethrin that my brother used on his dog when he had ticks and have read that it kills all types of pests, including mites so I think I am going to use it on him. The weird thing about the ears is that he doesn't seem to be scratching at them at all or shaking his head a lot but he is still biting and scratching mostly on his legs. I just did a full body inspection on him and there are a couple other small bald spots near the original one on his front leg. We have been using this vet for years with all of our family animals and he has never steered us wrong before but I might have to get a second opinion after reading some responses here.
OMG, don't use Pyrethrin on him. This is toxic. It's poison!!! Especially since he's a puppy. Please, please educate yourself. If you don't, you are setting yourself up for heartache later. I am known to recommend all-natural products. There are natural anti-parasitics you can use. One is neem. It is anti-fungal, anti-bacterial, anti-parasitic. Dog shampoos have been made with this for years. You can buy pure neem oil at health food stores.
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Also, just because you've been using your vet for years doesn't make him right. "Call" him on this. Ask why he wouldn't do a culture just to be sure. If you feel uncomfortable about any suggestions he makes or any treatment, you have every right to say "No."
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