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Old 11-11-2012, 07:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Gabby has been on prednisone and Tagamet just over a couple weeks. In that time, her tumors have already disappeared or reduced. This morning, the largest one popped back up to the original size on top of her head. She is on 25mg of prednisone every other day because she had issues on a higher dose.

GoudasMom or anyone else home cooking, would you mind sharing your recipes? The only ones I have found on here or when googling require a pressure cooker or use ground beef or chicken. I'm not comfortable using a pressure cooker, and I thought ground meat isn't as good. Is that only with raw feeding? Raw is something I cannot do. I know it's selfish and part of the natural order of things but I just couldn't see them eat chunks of raw meat...

I'm also wondering how much you feed when home cooking. Gabby is supposedly overweight (even though you can see her ribs a little) at 85lbs and not very active; and Maggie is 55-60 lbs and very active.

This one sounded good, but required the pressure cooker to make the bones soft and safe to eat after mashing everything up. Wondering if 8-10 hours in the crock pot would have the same effect?

4 whole frying chickens
6 cups water

10 pounds of whole, washed, unpeeled potatoes
3 good size yams, washed but not peeled

1 head of cauliflower broken in small pieces
(or a package or two of frozen cauliflower)
3 stalks of fresh broccoli in small pieces
(or a couple of packages of frozen broccoli)
2 packages of frozen chopped string beans
1 package of chopped frozen spinach


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Old 11-11-2012, 08:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't follow a recipe. I just sorta wing it each meal. I cook 1/2 cup of oatmeal in 1 cup of chicken broth. Then I add a chicken breast or, on the days he's having trouble keeping food down, a slice of chicken FreshPet Select cut up into tiny pieces (seems to be easier to digest than the chicken breast). In the mornings, I add a jar of baby food--always a veggie and I alternate between green veggies and orange veggies, or I puree some cooked frozen spinach and add it in. At night, I add in baby food, but always a fruit. If you cook up the chicken breasts ahead of time, meal prep is 10-15 minutes tops. I let him eat until he's full. He eats most of it and he finishes it up a couple hours later. I know Sue added in supplements. Our budget doesn't stretch that far, but Barkley doesn't know the difference. At least he's eating now, which he wasn't doing a month or so ago.
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what about a slow cooker instead of a pressure cooker??
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Ahh never even thought of baby food! Ill give that a try minus the oatmeal. Maggie does better on grain-free. She chews her feet and has itchy ears on it.


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Canadianjem, I do have a slow cooker and would have no problem using that. Do you know if several hours will have the same effect to the bones as the pressure cooker? I think it's cheaper to buy bone in and whole birds. That's why I'm wondering.

I'm also wondering if I need to switch up the proteins like poultry one week, beef the next?

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I never did follow a recipe per se, I just did some research about what is recommended for dogs with cancer. I find over the time helping/guiding people and listening to their experiences that every dog is different and some "recipes" work for them and some dont. Just try to keep an open mind and if something doesnt seem to be working dont be araid to try something else.

The hardest thing while home cooking is making sure the dog gets enough calcium. Just rice and chicken isnt enough, make sure to try different veggies and fruits pureed if needed. Add low fat cottage cheese or plain yogurt for the calcium. Some veggies like spinach have at least some calcium plus spinach is high in vitamin A.

This site has some very good information on cancer diets
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Off topic of the diet have you spoken to your Vet about increaing the dosage of prednisone?
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nooo don't feed cooked bones.. the shards are way to sharp.... I got used to feeding raw.. is no big deal... as long as there is no fur and no eye balls
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Ok thanks GoudasMom! Ill check out that site.

I talked to the vet last week after her trip to the ER with bloody urine and he recommended the 25mg every other day until she finishes her antibiotics and then go from there. The 50 every day was too much. It caused incontinence in her sleep and I believe it caused the UTI. He said he's only seen that after long term usage but she's never had one in the four years I've had her then gets one a week after being on prednisone? Pretty big coincidence. He said taking out all 10 at once would be hard on her, but I'm wondering if it could be any harder than this?


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I personally wouldnt feed cooked bones I never did.
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Calcium: When making your own dog food, you MUST add calcium if the dog diet does not include bones. Adult dogs need about 800 to 1000 mg of calcium per pound of food fed. Calcium must be supplied in a proper proportion to phosphorus. The ideal calcium:phosphorus ratio is between 1:1 and 2:1. Meat contains a lot of phosphorus, so if your home cooked dog diet includes a lot of meat, you need to include more calcium to reach the correct calcium;phosphorus ratio. Sources of calcium include ground eggshells and calcium supplements, such as calcium carbonate or calcium citrate. Some people add raw bones to a home cooked dog diet to supply the calcium needed for the dog. If you include raw bones in your dog diet, then you do not have to add calcium to the diet. NOTE: DO NOT feed cooked whole bones to dogs as they are brittle and prone to splintering, which can cause tooth fractures, intestinal obstruction and intestinal perforations.
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