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Old 12-04-2012, 12:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Was just wondering how many of you out there have kept your males intact? I have 2 boys and our vet brought it up the other day. To be honest I would prefer NOT to have it done. Maybe my mind will change when they are older.. but as of now Buddha is 7months and he is great.. no peeing inside, no raising his leg or aggression. Recently he does try to mount my leg (NOT cool).. but if i push him away and say no he stops immediately.
I have read the pros and cons.. and i just can't seem to justify putting them through it. Thoughts?
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Old 12-04-2012, 12:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I completely understand your struggle. I am going through the same struggle myself with Zeus. He is 7 months today and does not lift his leg or pee in the house. Soemtimes he can get a little rough when playing with his fur sister and i have caught him humping a couple times. UGH!

I am interested on the thoughts from some of the experts on this topic.
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If it's working out the way you have them, I don't see a reason to alter them. I too have read the pros and cons that have been posted and I personally have a tendency to lean towards the cons of spay / neuter but only for health reasons. I however have a conumdruim on my hands in that I have 3 females and two males from the same litter and not only will I never breed again but can you imagine what would happen if I had a sibbling pairing? I'm just not in a position to take a chance any longer as I don't ever want to put my babies through that again. I'll just have to make the extra effort to help keep them healthy after they've been spayed and neutered.

I wish you luck in making your decision and support whatever choice you make. They are your babies afterall.
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Old 12-04-2012, 12:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hi Buddha, I have 2 males. The senoir boy was neutered when we adopted him. Our youngin, Porter, is 16 months now and is intact. I have had no marking or humping issues. Our vet said that if there isn't an agression problem, there really is no health benefits of the neuter. He believes it is pushed by vets for monetary reasons. His opinion differs from the other vets in that practice...obviously. In any event, our last boy was intact till he died at age 12. I never had any issues with him either. It looks like Porter gets to keep his testicles.
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The to neuter or not neuter debate. You will always get conflicting answers. Do what you feel is right.

Personally, if a dog is not going to be a part of our breeding program then I will spay/neuter. I however would prefer to have this done after 18mths of age.
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:55 PM   #6 (permalink)
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If it's working out the way you have them, I don't see a reason to alter them. I too have read the pros and cons that have been posted and I personally have a tendency to lean towards the cons of spay / neuter but only for health reasons. I however have a conumdruim on my hands in that I have 3 females and two males from the same litter and not only will I never breed again but can you imagine what would happen if I had a sibbling pairing? I'm just not in a position to take a chance any longer as I don't ever want to put my babies through that again. I'll just have to make the extra effort to help keep them healthy after they've been spayed and neutered.

I wish you luck in making your decision and support whatever choice you make. They are your babies afterall.
In your case, would it be possible to just do the females or just do the males? Just a thought.


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Duke's not neutered and never will be. Other than for the show ring I will also never neuter for health benefits. There is no health benefit to neuter in my opinion. Testicular cancer is an extremely small risk with a 90% success rate of overcoming it. Another way I heard of it is that "it's just another place to get cancer." it's completely true. If your dog is predisposed to cancer it's probably going to happen. So I don't believe that's a medical reason to.

Duke has never marked in the house before. He doesn't turn into some terrible dog when there's a bitch in heat around, or hump anyone, it's all over exaggerated. They don't go roaming everyday. Its just common sense when owning them. I never let him off leash anywhere though anyway.


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Old 12-04-2012, 03:35 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I too have decided not to neuter my Rosco, he just turned 3yrs in Oct. and the vet always asks me the same thing too! "When are you going to neuter him? You don't want to wait too long!" And I tell her the same thing, uh yeah I don't know. He's never been bad either, if he has any built up sexual frustrations lol, he takes it out on my cousin Daine, lol, or his stuffed GSD. He's not aggressive to all dogs only a handful like 5. And they were also intact. May e later down the road I might??? Don't really want to though. Neither does my fiancé so we might never neuter him.


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Old 12-04-2012, 05:13 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I'm glad i'm not the only one who doesn't want to neuter. Although I completely understand in some circumstances (those with multiples etc.)
As for female dogs.. do the same beliefs apply- are there less pros over cons. SOME DAY (not anytime too soon).. we want a 3rd. I would love a female, but obviously with 2 males she would have to be spayed. Not sure how if 3 males would be too much.lol. I have enough on my hands at the moment, but def. something to think about for the future!
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Yep, there is essentially no benefit to spaying females. A decreased risk of pyometra, but that's it. I believe the last statistic I saw on Pyo is that it happens at most in 22% (at least reported) of bitches at most and it can be treated. I personally don't think it's a big enough risk to spay. There was a study done on Rotties somewhere where they had spayed and unswayed bitches. The unabated bitches were healthier in the long run while the spayed ones actually developed a cancer later. Of course this could be due to other factors, but still notable in my mind.

As far as keeping them impregnate, while I will say I haven't personally kept a male and female in heat in the same house, it doesn't seem to be that hard. The two door rule would always be in effect. One of the best things I've ever heard said about preventing an oops litter is that, "diapers aren't birth control". A diaper isn't going to stop a male. They can only really get pregnant 2 maybe 3,out of 52 weeks of the year and I would just watch her like a hawk during that time. It seems worth it to me.


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