Cardiologist Appointment Booked for Tomorrow. - Page 4

BuddhaBoss · 12-13-2012, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 2manydogs

As mentioned, if he does indeed have ARVC it will be seen on the 24hr Holter. He does not need to have a fainting spell during this test.

I own my own Holter monitor and I purchased it from the link above Alba Medical. The refurbished analog cassette models are great and I strongly recommend you purchase a vest as well. Upfront cost is about $700 US but here in Ontario I would pay $400 for a single reading and since I do 6 dogs annually it made sense to purchase my own unit.

We have been quoted 150 USdollars for one reading. Obviously if we were to purchase one it would benefit us in that as he gets older we can do extra readings.. is the correct? How often should they use the holter?
Does Alba charge for readings as well?
Thanks so much for the information.

winnie · 12-13-2012, 02:01 PM

Did you mention to the cardiologist the head injury?

BuddhaBoss · 12-13-2012, 02:18 PM

yes, we mentioned the head injury and he felt the lump but did not do an xray. I have just read all your comments to my husband (who is as thankful as i am) and we are going to take him back to the vet to have an xray tomorrow.

2manydogs · 12-13-2012, 03:34 PM

You purchase the machine from Alba, then you mail off your cassette tapes to Alba to be read. This costs additional money but isnt much. I believe its $35US for a standard report or $80US for a cardiologist report. Since I am use to reading them I just get a standard report. If you get the cardiologist report they will discuss their findings directly with your vet and set up a treatment protocol.

**Gypsiemouse** · 12-14-2012, 07:07 AM

My suggestion may be a bit of a S T R E T C H, but did the vet do any blood work to check for a vitamin deficiency?
A deficiency of Vitamin B-2 (riboflavin) can cause fainting spells as well as other problems. Riboflavin is found in organ meats and dairy. I know you've recently been feeding a raw diet, have you incorporated any organ meats yet?

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BuddhaBoss · 12-14-2012, 08:44 AM

You know I was thinking about that last night. I think at this point I am thinking of anything and everything as I am desperately not wanting him to have anything wrong with his heart. He has not had organ meat as of yet. But I am going to get some today and start introducing it in his diet. As of now we havnt had a fainting spell this week (fingers crossed).
I have read so much about this boxer cardiomyopathy, and everything I have read has mentioned that it is usually found in older (4/5+ years of age).. Boss is only 4months. Obviously I am still going to go through with the tests for the heart, but I'm not going to rule out other possibilities which make be causing this.

2manydogs · 12-14-2012, 09:19 AM

How many weeks have you been Raw feeding? What proteins are you on? Dont add in organs just yet. A deficiency takes quite a bit of time to happen. I'm talking several months, so I wouldnt stress his body out by adding in organs just yet. You dont need a fainting, liquid pooping puppy.

As a precaution you could start to add in an egg daily and see how he handles it. Eggs contain B2 Vitamins.

BuddhaBoss · 12-14-2012, 11:20 AM

Ok. I will start with the egg. He has been eating raw for over 2 months (9 weeks) We were taking things very slow as both pups had runny poops at the beginning. He is having chicken, beef, pork, goat (goat is easily available in brazil unlike other meats like turkey), we were going to introduce lamb this week and then fish next week.
Should he be having a bigger variety of proteins? Meats such as rabbit, deer, duck are extremely expensive here.

2manydogs · 12-14-2012, 02:47 PM

Nope, you are doing great with variety. He is actually ready to start introducing small amounts of liver. Give it with a bone in meal and start out with only 2 oz.

BuddhaBoss · 12-30-2012, 06:38 AM

***UPDATE BOSS****

So it has been a few weeks now since we went to the cardiologist and had boss' heart checked out. Since that day he is not passed out ONCE!! As the days have gone on infant he has gotten more and more playful!! I am keeping my fingers crossed and do not want to speak to soon.. But the bump on his head has gone down and so I am hoping it was something to do with that.
The only little slip up we had was the other night he was coughing in his sleep. I panicked as I know that is another sign of heart problem. But that happened a few days ago and hasn't happened since.. I'm not sure if he picked up a little cold or something.. Still slightly worried about that, but not overly. Yesterday we were at the vet to get his rabies injection but she was unable to do it as his temperature was a too high. I am not sure what all that was about.. We did walk to the vet office from our house and there was another boxer, Rottweiler, pug, lab and mix there and they were all playing.. So I hoping he was just a little hot from the excitement.
Anyways, we are still keeping an eye on him, taking things slow- but really how slow can you take things with a 4month old boxer?! Lol.
Paws crossed!!

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12-13-2012, 02:01 PM	#32 (permalink)
winnie Super User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Long Island Posts: 1,711	Did you mention to the cardiologist the head injury? __________________ Molly, Mom to Winston (at the bridge 12/6/12 and deeply missed) and Porter

12-13-2012, 03:34 PM	#34 (permalink)
2manydogs BoxerForums Addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Kawartha Lakes, Ontario Posts: 4,254	You purchase the machine from Alba, then you mail off your cassette tapes to Alba to be read. This costs additional money but isnt much. I believe its $35US for a standard report or $80US for a cardiologist report. Since I am use to reading them I just get a standard report. If you get the cardiologist report they will discuss their findings directly with your vet and set up a treatment protocol. __________________ Kari ~ Keeper, servant and mommy to the following crew Proudly Raw fed since 2010

12-14-2012, 07:07 AM	#35 (permalink)
Gypsiemouse Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 9,630	My suggestion may be a bit of a S T R E T C H, but did the vet do any blood work to check for a vitamin deficiency? A deficiency of Vitamin B-2 (riboflavin) can cause fainting spells as well as other problems. Riboflavin is found in organ meats and dairy. I know you've recently been feeding a raw diet, have you incorporated any organ meats yet? www.doggedhealth.com \| Nutrition & Exercise \| Nutrition __________________ Lynne- Owned by and Slave to Maggie and Mongo

12-14-2012, 09:19 AM	#37 (permalink)
2manydogs BoxerForums Addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Kawartha Lakes, Ontario Posts: 4,254	How many weeks have you been Raw feeding? What proteins are you on? Dont add in organs just yet. A deficiency takes quite a bit of time to happen. I'm talking several months, so I wouldnt stress his body out by adding in organs just yet. You dont need a fainting, liquid pooping puppy. As a precaution you could start to add in an egg daily and see how he handles it. Eggs contain B2 Vitamins. __________________ Kari ~ Keeper, servant and mommy to the following crew Proudly Raw fed since 2010

12-14-2012, 02:47 PM	#39 (permalink)
2manydogs BoxerForums Addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Kawartha Lakes, Ontario Posts: 4,254	Nope, you are doing great with variety. He is actually ready to start introducing small amounts of liver. Give it with a bone in meal and start out with only 2 oz. __________________ Kari ~ Keeper, servant and mommy to the following crew Proudly Raw fed since 2010

12-13-2012, 02:18 PM	#33 (permalink)
BuddhaBoss Experienced User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Brazil Posts: 247	yes, we mentioned the head injury and he felt the lump but did not do an xray. I have just read all your comments to my husband (who is as thankful as i am) and we are going to take him back to the vet to have an xray tomorrow.

12-14-2012, 08:44 AM	#36 (permalink)
BuddhaBoss Experienced User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Brazil Posts: 247	You know I was thinking about that last night. I think at this point I am thinking of anything and everything as I am desperately not wanting him to have anything wrong with his heart. He has not had organ meat as of yet. But I am going to get some today and start introducing it in his diet. As of now we havnt had a fainting spell this week (fingers crossed). I have read so much about this boxer cardiomyopathy, and everything I have read has mentioned that it is usually found in older (4/5+ years of age).. Boss is only 4months. Obviously I am still going to go through with the tests for the heart, but I'm not going to rule out other possibilities which make be causing this.

12-14-2012, 11:20 AM	#38 (permalink)
BuddhaBoss Experienced User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Brazil Posts: 247	Ok. I will start with the egg. He has been eating raw for over 2 months (9 weeks) We were taking things very slow as both pups had runny poops at the beginning. He is having chicken, beef, pork, goat (goat is easily available in brazil unlike other meats like turkey), we were going to introduce lamb this week and then fish next week. Should he be having a bigger variety of proteins? Meats such as rabbit, deer, duck are extremely expensive here.

12-30-2012, 06:38 AM	#40 (permalink)
BuddhaBoss Experienced User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Brazil Posts: 247	*UPDATE BOSS** So it has been a few weeks now since we went to the cardiologist and had boss' heart checked out. Since that day he is not passed out ONCE!! As the days have gone on infant he has gotten more and more playful!! I am keeping my fingers crossed and do not want to speak to soon.. But the bump on his head has gone down and so I am hoping it was something to do with that. The only little slip up we had was the other night he was coughing in his sleep. I panicked as I know that is another sign of heart problem. But that happened a few days ago and hasn't happened since.. I'm not sure if he picked up a little cold or something.. Still slightly worried about that, but not overly. Yesterday we were at the vet to get his rabies injection but she was unable to do it as his temperature was a too high. I am not sure what all that was about.. We did walk to the vet office from our house and there was another boxer, Rottweiler, pug, lab and mix there and they were all playing.. So I hoping he was just a little hot from the excitement. Anyways, we are still keeping an eye on him, taking things slow- but really how slow can you take things with a 4month old boxer?! Lol. Paws crossed!! Sent from my iPhone using PG Free

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