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Old 12-22-2012, 09:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi Folks,

Been a while since I posted. Have an issue I could use advice from those that have had similar experience.

Apollo is 4yo male about 75 lbs. Did not see what happened... but I definitely heard it... he was coming down stairs in the house, and at bottom of stairs is pergo flooring. On Tuesday morning, something must have spooked him as I heard him hit floor, hit wall, scramble around... something. Lots of noise ! He and Luke (another 3 yo male) came running down another set of stairs to family room where I was sitting and laid on their beds. Thought nothing of it till I got up, went upstairs, and when they followed me I saw Apollo limping and not using his left rear leg. Would not put his paw down.

Kept him quiet all day, but he was still limping. Took him to the vet that evening, and doc could not tell if he tore his ACL. He said things still felt pretty tight, so probability lessened. Doc gave prescription 227mg Previcox and another week of rest. Again that was Tuesday night, Dec 18.

On Thursday, Apollo was putting his paw down and weight on his leg. After getting up from resting, he may still keep it up or favor it alot till he gets moving... a definite change from Tuesday. But here it is Saturday morning and no further change from Thursday.

Just wondering from those with experience on this... how much longer should I go with no further change before I take him in and have him knocked out so the vet can really work his leg to see if there is a tear ? I am thinking until his prescription runs out + a couple of days, which would take me to Dec 31. Am just wondering if the meds are cutting the pain of a tear, so he's using it now... so after meds are done should see if pain comes back and he starts limping more or keeping it raised.

Hopefully this is a deep bruise or bad sprain and it really heals and takes care of itself... or something that heals on it's own.

Anyone with any experience or have thoughts... whether I'm doing right thing or should consider something else ? Vet seems to think that's a good approach but just wondering what you may know as well from any similar experiences.

And... there is now a rug at bottom of stairs !

Thanks much in advance.
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Old 12-22-2012, 09:22 AM   #2 (permalink)
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No experience but did they say to ice it at all? I called my vet yesterday about him possibly having pink eye, called twice they never got back to me:-( and they aren't back in the office until after the new year. I wouldn't wait too long as it could do more damage


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Old 12-22-2012, 09:31 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi... no... nothing mentioned on icing. Unfortunately with the holidays I don't think they would be able to knock him out till day after xmas. I will be seeing the doc that day for something else with my other guy, Luke. So if there is still no further change will ask him again and maybe get a closer look done mid-late next week.

Needless to say... in the meantime no walks or playtime. Both of them are kept calm all day... and all of you know how easy that is for 2 boxer boys.
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Old 12-22-2012, 11:04 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Oh wow...I am so sorry that your having to go through this right now. I know I'd be terrified. Hopefully it's nothing serious. Please keep us posted.
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Old 12-22-2012, 03:43 PM   #5 (permalink)
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My golden retriever tore both of his cruciate ligaments and my boxer currently has a partial tear that we are going to repair with surgery in January. Any meds they put him on will not obviously fix the problem if it is a cruciate tear, but it can make him more comfortable. The problem with him being on pain meds is that if he can't feel the pain then he might be too active and do more damage. If it doesn't get better in the next couple of weeks I'd get him kocked out so they can do the drawer test to figure out if it is actually a cruciate tear (which is extremely likely, it's a very common injury). My boxer's pain level tends to come and go as well, if she has a good 2 hr off leash hike she's definitly sore and will limp, if she just has leashed walks it's much less obvious that she's sore. She will do very subtle things though like shifting her weight to her good leg when she's standing still, she'll "toe-touch" her bad leg on the ground instead of fully weight bearing on it, she'll hold her bad leg up while she goes up/down the stairs, etc.
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Old 12-22-2012, 04:09 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks Jess. That's (unfortunately) pretty much what I was thinking. The meds may just be masking a tear.... and need to just wait a few more days and see, especially when he gets off the meds. And who knows... he might get lucky and it just turns out to be really really sore and a few more days of rest will fix him up. Just good to hear from someone that's experienced it. Appreciate your note.

BTW... My other guy going in on Wednesday to have a lump removed looks alot like Aspen. Luke is a whitey too.. with a dark brown left ear. I can see I need to get new pics uploaded.
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Jaxon tore his about a year ago. We have managed not to have to have surgery. He doesnt limp at all anymore but when he sits he has a hard time doing it. No problem jumping running or walking but sitting is uncomfortable. Do research. There are ways to help it heal if it is a partial and you can keep it from being total. We will probably need to do the surgery but since he is able to move around so well we won't right now. Good luck. I hope it is just a sprain.
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Old 12-29-2012, 08:31 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Hi All,

Just a bit of an update... had the drawer test done on Apollo by my local vet and he tested positive with movement in his left knee... the one he injured. Right knee was solid. Xrays show no fluid around knee... no signs of inflammation. Crap ! Going in to see a board certified specialist on Wednesday.

As for my other guy, Luke, a bit of good news. Had his surgery this past Wednesday for removal of a lump on side. All went well and he's recovering. Results came back from lab and it was benign. Yeah! Has a good size wound on his side, and some redness/swelling that started to show this morning so he's now on antibiotics. Stitches out in a week.

Plan is to get Luke healthy before I start down the long road with Apollo if that's where we need to go. I've pretty much accepted that the specialist will recommend that, and for him is probably the best path to get him healed and back to his crazy active self again. More than likely sometime here in January.
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wow sorry to hear about Apollo. We are dealing with the same thing right now. Samson was fine Christmas day. came in from playing, took nap, woke up from nap then wouldn't put weight on left hind leg. Vet said probable partial tear and we would treat conservatively... Ice, Anti-inflammatory and rest (no jumping, running)for 6-8 weeks. He is only 8 months old so keeping him calm is no easy task. I need Valuim for him and me! LOL...Vet is reluctant to surgery right now for couple of reason but esp because of his age etc... We are praying it heals well and no surgery needed.

I Pray that both your fellows do well!! Please keep us posted
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My little baby, Tate who is only five months old is going through something similar. He woke up yesterday walking stiffly on his back right leg. I thought it was caused from a small cut on his paw from salt on the sidewalks. By the evening, the cut was basically healed over it was so minor but he was limping and lifting his leg. This morning I just about cried when I saw his little knee and surrounding area is swollen. So sad seeing him limp around. He's been laying on his bed all day, but the odd time when he gets up to go outside, he's slipped a few times on the hardwood floor. I've been right there to catch him and even help hold him up as he walks. The vet is closed until tomorrow but some articles I've read seem to suggest waiting a week before seeing a vet. He is not whining or showing other signs of pain. He is my first baby, and I'm worried sick about him.


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