Vaccines

Breezygirl · 01-09-2013, 07:07 PM

I have been studying vaccines, and did a very intense project on them a few years ago.(more so on how they work) Having said that, I do find that many people are beginning to vaccinate much less, and some not at all. I have vaccinated in the past however, not so much now. I am wondering if others share the same opinion, and I am curious as to how often most vaccinate now. And what about puppy vaccines? I just read an article a friend sent me on why some vaccines should wait till 6 months? Just looking for your thoughts?? Loaded question I know!

af_wx_wife · 01-09-2013, 07:18 PM

With living on a military base, we HAVE to have shots done on our animals.

2manydogs · 01-09-2013, 07:19 PM

I am a natural rearer. I would rather a person titre test their puppy at 12-16 weeks to see if any maternal antibodies are still present. Then only administer one vaccine when the tests show there are none. Thats it, a single vaccine for the life of the dog. What many people dont know is that if maternal antibodies are present the vaccine wont take effect. That is why puppy shots are spread out over 3 months, in hopes that one will provide antibodies. I do not recommend the Lyme or Lepto vaccine as there is more risk giving it than them getting the actual disease. The Bordetella vaccine is also another one I would not give.

As for Rabies, I only ever recommend 1 vaccine after 6 mths of age. There are studies being done that have shown a single rabies vaccine is good for up to 15yrs.

You can read more about it here: Duration of Immunity Study for Rabies Vaccine - Rabies Challenge Fund

Mike P · 01-09-2013, 07:20 PM

I will only give rabbies every 3 years.Google Dr schultz from wisconsin university and also dr Jean Dodds.Shultz 20 plus year study shows that there is life long protection for parv/distemper after the 1 year booster.

**Gypsiemouse** · 01-09-2013, 07:26 PM

I gave the puppy shots and the one year booster.
Rabies is required every 3 years where I live, so I have to do that one (even though i don't want to).
Maggie had the Bordetella once because her obedience school required it.

Maggie had titers last year which showed she still had immunity to the core vaccines, so no boosters for her.
Mongo will have titers this year.

I will probably only titer every couple years. Don't think it's necessary every year.

I have never given the lepto or lymes even though the vet brings it up. Whenever they bring it up I ask how prevalent it is in our area and how many cases do they see?
It is something I would consider, but only if it was a bad problem in my area.

Katielovesleo · 01-09-2013, 07:26 PM

Good question. I want to hear what others say too bc I been hearing that we are over vaccinating our pets and I don't want to do that but then when people hear that and other stuff like "all vaccines are bad" then they stop vaccinating altogether and then they bring their dog everywhere and poop in the streets and take them to the park and etc... Then I bring my dog to petco or wherever and I'm worried he'll catch something funky. So I try to soak his paws often but I know he hates it lol. I do vaccinate once a year. I don't remember what all vaccines he gets but last year he only got two, I would have to look at the receipt.

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Breezygirl · 01-09-2013, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 2manydogs

I am a natural rearer. I would rather a person titre test their puppy at 12-16 weeks to see if any maternal antibodies are still present. Then only administer one vaccine when the tests show there are none. Thats it, a single vaccine for the life of the dog. What many people dont know is that if maternal antibodies are present the vaccine wont take effect. That is why puppy shots are spread out over 3 months, in hopes that one will provide antibodies. I do not recommend the Lyme or Lepto vaccine as there is more risk giving it than them getting the actual disease. The Bordetella vaccine is also another one I would not give.

As for Rabies, I only ever recommend 1 vaccine after 6 mths of age. There are studies being done that have shown a single rabies vaccine is good for up to 15yrs.

You can read more about it here: Duration of Immunity Study for Rabies Vaccine - Rabies Challenge Fund

Ok this is exactly what I did my assignment on!! It was after researching something to do with my children's vaccines.. that got me thinking. I decided to take some courses.. What is making me crazy is the Rabies! Not being able to do much without it. People have issues that I don't ask for proof of vaccines before starting my classes. It's not necessary !! And I wish that titre tests where more affordable! and more people knew about them! Thanks for link Im going to check it out now.

2manydogs · 01-09-2013, 07:38 PM

I am very fortunate to have found a trainer that shares the same views that I have regarding vaccines. My last puppy was not vaccinated at all and will never be. She is not kept in a bubble, she is well socialized with people and other animals. She is a regular dog that hasnt been poisoned by vaccines.

Breezygirl · 01-09-2013, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike P

I will only give rabbies every 3 years.Google Dr schultz from wisconsin university and also dr Jean Dodds.Shultz 20 plus year study shows that there is life long protection for parv/distemper after the 1 year booster.

Yes, I am familiar I referred to some of it in my assignment. I am hoping we will see more change in vaccine laws!!

**Gypsiemouse** · 01-09-2013, 07:57 PM

The price of titers seems to vary widely based on where you live.
I paid around $65 ish.

01-09-2013, 07:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
Breezygirl Advanced User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Ontario Posts: 831	Vaccines I have been studying vaccines, and did a very intense project on them a few years ago.(more so on how they work) Having said that, I do find that many people are beginning to vaccinate much less, and some not at all. I have vaccinated in the past however, not so much now. I am wondering if others share the same opinion, and I am curious as to how often most vaccinate now. And what about puppy vaccines? I just read an article a friend sent me on why some vaccines should wait till 6 months? Just looking for your thoughts?? Loaded question I know! __________________ Mandi ... mom of fur kids.. Breeze, Bentley .. and new baby Winter

01-09-2013, 07:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
af_wx_wife BoxerForums Addict Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Central Texas Posts: 2,432	With living on a military base, we HAVE to have shots done on our animals. __________________

01-09-2013, 07:19 PM	#3 (permalink)
2manydogs BoxerForums Addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Kawartha Lakes, Ontario Posts: 4,035	I am a natural rearer. I would rather a person titre test their puppy at 12-16 weeks to see if any maternal antibodies are still present. Then only administer one vaccine when the tests show there are none. Thats it, a single vaccine for the life of the dog. What many people dont know is that if maternal antibodies are present the vaccine wont take effect. That is why puppy shots are spread out over 3 months, in hopes that one will provide antibodies. I do not recommend the Lyme or Lepto vaccine as there is more risk giving it than them getting the actual disease. The Bordetella vaccine is also another one I would not give. As for Rabies, I only ever recommend 1 vaccine after 6 mths of age. There are studies being done that have shown a single rabies vaccine is good for up to 15yrs. You can read more about it here: Duration of Immunity Study for Rabies Vaccine - Rabies Challenge Fund __________________ Kari ~ Keeper, servant and mommy to the following crew Proudly Raw fed since 2010 Last edited by 2manydogs; 01-09-2013 at 07:23 PM.

01-09-2013, 07:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
Gypsiemouse Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 9,472	I gave the puppy shots and the one year booster. Rabies is required every 3 years where I live, so I have to do that one (even though i don't want to). Maggie had the Bordetella once because her obedience school required it. Maggie had titers last year which showed she still had immunity to the core vaccines, so no boosters for her. Mongo will have titers this year. I will probably only titer every couple years. Don't think it's necessary every year. I have never given the lepto or lymes even though the vet brings it up. Whenever they bring it up I ask how prevalent it is in our area and how many cases do they see? It is something I would consider, but only if it was a bad problem in my area. __________________ Lynne- Owned by and Slave to Maggie and Mongo

01-09-2013, 07:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
Katielovesleo Power User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Crosby, Texas Posts: 593	Good question. I want to hear what others say too bc I been hearing that we are over vaccinating our pets and I don't want to do that but then when people hear that and other stuff like "all vaccines are bad" then they stop vaccinating altogether and then they bring their dog everywhere and poop in the streets and take them to the park and etc... Then I bring my dog to petco or wherever and I'm worried he'll catch something funky. So I try to soak his paws often but I know he hates it lol. I do vaccinate once a year. I don't remember what all vaccines he gets but last year he only got two, I would have to look at the receipt. Sent from my iPhone using Petguide.com Free App __________________ "Dogs will be dogs; it's up to you to show them how to be dogs around people" Pat Miller

01-09-2013, 07:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mike P New User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Illinois Posts: 8	I will only give rabbies every 3 years.Google Dr schultz from wisconsin university and also dr Jean Dodds.Shultz 20 plus year study shows that there is life long protection for parv/distemper after the 1 year booster.

01-09-2013, 07:38 PM	#8 (permalink)
2manydogs BoxerForums Addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Kawartha Lakes, Ontario Posts: 4,035	I am very fortunate to have found a trainer that shares the same views that I have regarding vaccines. My last puppy was not vaccinated at all and will never be. She is not kept in a bubble, she is well socialized with people and other animals. She is a regular dog that hasnt been poisoned by vaccines. __________________ Kari ~ Keeper, servant and mommy to the following crew Proudly Raw fed since 2010

01-09-2013, 07:57 PM	#10 (permalink)
Gypsiemouse Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 9,472	The price of titers seems to vary widely based on where you live. I paid around $65 ish. __________________ Lynne- Owned by and Slave to Maggie and Mongo

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