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Old 01-18-2013, 04:24 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 01-19-2013, 03:56 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Well patch slept in our room last night.......

you wouldn't have even known he was there!!! i know puppys arent ment to sleep through but he did! he slept from 12 till 8 and didnt wake once
not even for a pee pee break!! and he got up then we took him downstairs and he asked to go straight out for the toilet!!

Couldn't get much better than that at 8 weeks i dont think :great:

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How old is the puppy? Keep her bed in your bedroom, they need to feel secure like human babies. Depending on how young she is, she migh need feeding and she might be cold. Try not to crate, certainly not past when they are potty trained- they are very bright and can easily be trained instead.Warren Eckstein: The Case Against Crate Training.
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How old is the puppy? Keep her bed in your bedroom, they need to feel secure like human babies. Depending on how young she is, she migh need feeding and she might be cold. Try not to crate, certainly not past when they are potty trained- they are very bright and can easily be trained instead.Warren Eckstein: The Case Against Crate Training.

I have to comment on this article.. I agree with a lot of what he says! However, starting your dog off in a penned area of 3x3 is the same thing! I don't agree with his reasons he suggests people crate training, I do believe in crate training in the terms of ... when you are not home, that pup is safe! Also.. he refers to children... when you are unable to keep an eye on a mobile infant.. where do you put them? I would like to think they are not roaming on their own! Most times they are in a high chair, playpen, or sleeping in a crib?? not much different to me then using a crate?? Sorry I do like some of his points but I have studied this for many many years.. I think that where I do agree, is the fact that some rely on their crate rather then taking the time to work with their dog!. If you are home.. puppy should be free and close to you.

Our dogs all start out in a crate... night time crating is gone as soon as the pup is making it through the night without needing to go outside. Then we simply replace the bedroom crate with a dog bed. However, If I go out and pup is unable to come.. he/she is crated so that I know they are safe, and not getting into anything.

Lastly I have known MANY MANY people who have trained using spaces in their kitchen, and or a bathroom!!! And most not all.. had more issues with their pups using the house as a bathroom.

So I suggest using a crate, and not over using a crate!! I would not suggest not using a crate, unless you are always with your pup. Remember, you can be upset that they chewed your shoes, but they were already rewarded...... when they were chewing your shoes!

Everything else in the article about .. watching your pup for signs and so on I totally agree with Thanks for sharing that article.
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Breezygirl- most people are not as sensible and experienced as you and crate their dogs far too much. It should be used as a training tool for a limited time only and I don't think you should to crate an adult dog ever. None of mine hae ever been caged in and I have neer had a problem with toilet accidents or destroyed houses. Training takes time, effort and patience and most people just don't make that time, unfortunately.
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Breezygirl- most people are not as sensible and experienced as you and crate their dogs far too much. It should be used as a training tool for a limited time only and I don't think you should to crate an adult dog ever. None of mine hae ever been caged in and I have neer had a problem with toilet accidents or destroyed houses. Training takes time, effort and patience and most people just don't make that time, unfortunately.
Oh please understand, I agree with you! However, all I am saying is used properly crate training can save a pup from serious harm and dangers. I feel it goes both ways.. although you were very attentive to your pups, Not all are! you have no idea the horrible things I have seen with people who did not use a crate. I think we are on the same page..... a pup needs to be safe!! At all times! ... they take time, patience and a lot of attention. I think the bottom line is .. everybody has a different life style, work schedule, bedroom size and so on.. so not everybody can train the same way. So if using a crate.. It should be only when needed... not as their "home"

I do suggest crate training ... and as with everything.. I suggest it be done properly.
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The first night I got Rocky I snuggled him up on his doggy bed. The little dude slept there all night. He slept there for a few nights before he started whining. Turns out he only wanted to sleep on a bed. I don't blame him. So every night since than he has either slept on my bed or my sisters bed. As far as pot training him it took maybe a month. Surprisingly it wasn't that hard to break him of peeing in the house. Just a few stern NO ROCKY! NO PEE IN HOUSE! and that was it. Now if he wants to use the facilities he walks to the backdoor and waits for me to open it. If he really has to go bad he will give the backdoor a little tap.



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