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Beginners Guide to Raw Feeding

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#1 · (Edited)
EDIT 2016 - I have found that many dogs do not handle chicken very well or require more bone in the beginning to keep them solid. If you have completed week 1 of the transition but your dog still has runny or loose stools, stop feeding the legs all together. Instead look for ground necks/backs or even whole if they like chewing. Feed this for two whole weeks, then introduce some red meat to the mixture. If your dog is sensitive/allergic to chicken, substitute turkey or duck in its place.


Here is a week by week layout on how to easily and smoothly transition your dog to Raw. Regardless of age, any dog can be switched over :)

The PMR ( Prey Model Raw) diet is based on the 80-10-10 ratio. 80% muscle meat, 10% bone, 10% organs. It is recommended to feed your dog at 2-3% of their ideal adult body weight with 2% being the most common. If transitioning puppies you can base their amount on 5-10% of current weight or as I do it, 2% of estimated adult weight.

Week 1 and 2: You will only offer your dog chicken. This can be necks, backs, wings, or legs. I prefer and always recommend you start with leg quarters. For the first 2 weeks you will remove all skin.

Week 3: You will still feed chicken but you will start leaving the skin on every other meal.

Week 4: You will still still feed chicken but you can now leave the skin on every meal.

Week 5 and 6: Lets try some red meats 3:-O You can add in Beef daily. This can be anything that moo's. Steaks, ground, roasts, heart, ribs, lung etc. Red meats are richer and can cause loose or soft stools so let's start very slowly. You will add into you poultry base 2oz per meal for 3-4 days, then increase to 4 oz per meal for another 3-4 days. Keep an eye on those poops, make sure they stay nice and firm. Only increase of poops are normal, the goal is to get your dog to a mainly beef with a small amount of protein meal daily. (If feeding 1lb per meal and example would be 3-4oz poultry with bone, 12oz red meat)

If your dog is handling the chicken and beef you are now ready to move onto the next protein. Turkey ~:> I usually recommend that you add in a new protein every 2 weeks.

Week 7 and 8: You can add in some turkey. This can be turkey necks, backs, wings or legs. I prefer necks as they are very meaty and provide an excellent workout for your dog :) I replace the chicken ratio with turkey.

Week 9 and 10: Here piggy piggy! My guys LOVE Pork! Like the rest of the proteins you can now add this in 1-2 meals per week. Take Pork very slow!! Due to the extra fat content it can make your dog gassy in the beginning. This to shall pass :D Yes pun intended!!! Just like Beef, add it in with a bone in protein. I never feed Pork by itself, it is always placed with a bone in protein but each dog is different so figure out what works for your dog.

By this point your dog should be easily eating 4 proteins a week. I have found that my dogs need bone content in every single meal to keep their poops consistent. Once fully transitioned over we alternate proteins. AM - chicken/beef, PM - turkey/pork and so forth.

Your dogs diet is well on its way so now we can move onto fish.

Week 11 and 12: Fish can be fishy to feed. This was the hardest protein to get my crew on and 2.5 yrs later I still have one dog that refuses. Please do not feed canned fish. You want to try and get your dog on whole fish such as Mackeral, Sardines, Smelts, Salmon, Trout etc. if your dog does not eat it thawed, try feeding it frozen. If they still refuse I recommend you start supplementing Fish Oil daily with Vitamin E. 1-2000mg of fish oil/400UI of Vitamin E.

You can now start to add in some organs :clap: Organs should make up 10% of your dogs diet with 5% being liver. I would start adding in 1oz of liver in only ONE meal per day. If that goes well over the next 2 weeks, increase it to two meals per day (this is of course for medium to large breed dogs weighing between 50-80lbs) Liver can come from any animal but I mainly use chicken and beef. Once your dog handles liver you can then add in kidney as well. Heart is NOT an organ, it is fed as a muscle meat.

The more proteins you feed, the more balanced your dogs diet becomes. At a bare minimum I would try and feed 4 protein groups with 2 being red meats. If you have access to more proteins, then add them every two weeks like you did the first 4. I currently feed my crew:

chicken
turkey
beef
pork
lamb
fish
deer
rabbit
 
#4 ·
Awesome!! Thanks so much Kari! So would we treat all red meat the same? For instance deer, moose, beef. Would you have to introduce each over a two week period? Or once one red meat is introduced they are all ok?
 
#6 · (Edited)
Ok. Perfect!! Thanks! :). I think we are going to make the switch in sept or oct at the latest, that way I can start stocking up on chicken and turkey and plus it will be hunting season. We always have lots of fresh fish and salmon on hand so that won't be a problem although Tasia won't touch fish at all.
 
#15 ·
What do you mean what does muscle do for them?? What does it do for us?? Its pure protein, its what fuels and repairs the body. I am also confused about what you mean about calculating it into their diet. It should roughly make up 80%.

If your dog is 60lbs, then this is what a one month food schedule should sort of look like.

At 2% thats 1.2lbs daily for a total of 36lbs over a 30 day period.

Of that 36lbs, 28.8 lbs should be muscle meats, 3.6lbs should be bone and 3.6lbs should be organs.
 
#23 ·
Perfect Thread Kari, I'm sure those starting out Appreciate it as much as I do.. somedays i think my brain is shut off and I msg you... Hit Repeat button..LOL

Can the dogs eat the lamb bones?? are they softer like the pork... also how do you grind up bones say like Turkey as my little guy has troubles biting turkey bones.. Chicken bones he has not problem.
 
#25 ·
Lamb and pork ribs tend to be soft and my guys do eat them. As for grinding up turkey bones..... You can ask if your butcher will do it for you but most will refuse. Other than buying your own grinder see if you can purchase it already ground.

Mountain Dog Food is Canadian and can be food in many pet stores. They have a ground chicken with bone and a ground turkey with bone product.

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#27 ·
I've been thinking about starting Gracie on raw for a bit now. So this evening, I gave her a chicken leg- no skin, for starters. She went to town on it. As soon as she chewed and heard the bone crack, she became very interested in her chicken leg. Well... within minutes, she threw the whole thing up. I've noticed this happen in the past too when I've added raw chicken breast in with her meal. What's up with this? Is this normal? will she ever be able to go raw? maybe her tummy doesn't tolerate it.
 
#28 ·
I've been thinking about starting Gracie on raw for a bit now. So this evening, I gave her a chicken leg- no skin, for starters. She went to town on it. As soon as she chewed and heard the bone crack, she became very interested in her chicken leg. Well... within minutes, she threw the whole thing up. I've noticed this happen in the past too when I've added raw chicken breast in with her meal. What's up with this? Is this normal? will she ever be able to go raw? maybe her tummy doesn't tolerate it.

Did she eat it whole or did she crunch it up?

I give Bos chicken legs as treats. He cannot tolerate the skin at all so every little tiny piece I cut off. Also, I chopoff the cartiledge (the end of the chicken leg) because he would eat it but everytime would throw that particular part up....

and usually in the middle of the night. Always nice to wake up to gagging/slurping sounds and having chicken-throw up on your carpet:down:
 
#29 ·
I already responded to this on FB but just in case any new members are reading and facing the same issue I will respond here as well.

Your dogs digestive system has changed so that it can digest kibble. Kibble is not natural, it takes about 12-15hr to digest. Where Raw only takes about 4 hrs. So your dogs tummy will need time to adjust back.

I always suggest a 24hr fast, then a small skinless chicken meal. If she throws it back up, dont worry about it, she will try to eat it again. Though gross, its just a part of how they eat :)
 
#39 ·
Aloha! I am new to the group, new to boxers and new to the raw diet. I am a vegetarian and haven't even bought meat for over 5 years! Ha! But I've read a lil on the subject and believe strongly that it is the best thing we can do for our animals.

I am more than overwhelmed with the thought of preparing raw meals for several reasons- one being that I'm just so hard wired to stay away fe meat- my knives have never even touched the stuff!

Do u feed the raw meat in a separate area away from kids and then bleach it after?

What grade meats to you buy your animals?

Is there a book or website you can recommend to help me get started? I'm just so overwhelmed by the whole thing.



Domino
 
#40 ·
I feed my dogs right in my bedroom. LOL I live with my parents (I rent the lower section of the house - works well for all of us), but they don't want to "hear" it (bone crunching). I've had no problems at all. I feed Logan his bone meals on a towel on the tile portion of my floor. He's very good at staying on his towel, but I still wipe it up with some antibacteria spray or wipes. When it's just meat he eats out of a bowl just like he did on kibble. I just wash the bowls when he's done. Abby is fed right in her crate. Again, I wipe it down when she's done. She's not at the bone free part of the transition yet, but I'll be using the same routine with her.

I buy all of my meats from my grocery store right now, but I'm shopping around to find better prices now. You don't really have to worry to much about bacteria so you don't have to be super picky about what you're feeding. It can even be slightly expired and still dog safe. Believe it or not, some people will actually scoop roadkill up off the road and feed that. I'm NEVER going to that extreme, but some people do it. Bleh!!
I really didn't read any books. I just did a lot of research (and I'm continuing) online. Kari was a HUGE help to me as well. Just be warned that the more people you talk to the more conflicting opinions you're most likely going to run into. I know I had that problem. I've basically just gone with my gut instinct on a lot of it and so far have not had a single problem. :)

I'm sure it'll be weird for you to deal with meat, but after a while it'll be nothing! Especially once you see how well your dog does with it! :)