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Old 06-06-2014, 03:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi hi all, So i guess to begin with i can easily tell you that I have a 2 year old female Irish Wolfhound and a 1 year old brindle Boxer female. I guess I can start from the bottom up since that will be easier and no holes will be missing giving you all, all the info you need to be able to help me out the best you can with info / tips / your own thoughts anyway. My 2 year old Irish wolfhounds name is Azzra and my Boxers name is Ocean, every since Ocean was a puppy she seamed to allways sorta have the more alpha tendencies in her, And I mean at around 5-6 months old she would always snap at Azzra if Azzra came up to her while Ocean was eating (( thank god she grew out of / stopped doing that )) Also when giving both the dogs treats at the same time they would go their separate ways, until Ocean got bored or I have no idea and would go and take Azzras aways from her, So Azzra would leave go have a drink of water come back and when she would go to close to Ocean, Ocean would freak out and bite her basically saying get away (( again thank god she grew out of that / or at least it has not happened in months )).


Ever since Ocean was 3 months old we took her for a walk our friends who has 2 french bulldogs and the 3 got into a fight, and their bullys are older dogs and Ocean was ya only 3 months and Ocean would not stop or roll over on her belly, she wanted to fight back, I had to pick her up and she still wanted to jump down and fight, a few months after we were walking with Azzra and Ocean and these people came along with 2 older boxers a male and female And I think ocean was about 5 -6 months, anyway the male loved Ocean and licked her and everything all cool, but the female HATED her, the other older female boxer put Ocean in her place, made her lay on the ground and would not let her up, I mean the older female boxer wasn't being aggressive i think but surly really intimidating and that was the only time in oceans life where another dog has put her in her place so she knows her ranking, Another time we had our dogs out front our house and the neighbor let his boarder collie I think he said she is like 8 years old and ya Ocean was maybe 7-8 months a little bit older and they got into a fight Ocean bit her pretty good ( oh ) but as i recall when ocean was just 3 months old the border collie also snipped at ocean when she was just 3 months old, moving on to 2 most recent events, we take Azzra and Ocean along with our friends and their black lab for walks pretty regularly, And Ocean always always is very dominant towards the black lab he is 2 years by the way but for example she will stand in front of him and wont let him walk past her and she always goes for the back legs and is just super hyper and dominant all the time no matter what, one time all 3 of the dogs ran up on some other dogs pretty fast to say hello (( off leash dog trail )) and one of the other ladies there had her border collie on leash, and her boarder collie i don't know was scared that all 3 dogs ran up and wanted to say hi and have a sniff, well her boarder collie started snipping a bit at the dogs and barking a bit, and Ocean understood that as being agressive i think ????????? or that the boarder collie wanted to fight ???????? anyway after the boarder collie was snipping at them Ocean bite the boarder collie on the neck right in the spot where the boarder collie could not move its neck to defend herself and it took me and my husband both of us to get our 1 year old boxer to let go of this boarder collie.


And just today we were getting ready to go for a walk and we always let our dogs off leash to the car cause its right close by, anyway there were people passing with their dogs and we didnt see, and Azzra and Ocean always run up fast to say hi and have a sniff well one of their dogs was scared or freaked out at how fast our dogs ran up and started barking and snipping and AGAIN Ocean understood that ass agression or fighting and if i hadn't run up and got her she would of bite that dog also cause i could see her hair on her back stand up like getting ready to do something.


And I really just do not understand why she feels like she has to bite or fight other dogs if they are on a leash and bite / snip / bark at her if she runs up on them super fast ???. Anyway I have decided that she will always be on a leash every time we go out for a walk or anything.

Ocean being a clown and sitting on Azzra
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Old 06-06-2014, 07:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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OK your first mistake! Boxers and Buddies policy..No female Boxers to households with females Boxers another breed may or not be OK??
Your dog/dogs are unpredictable? A dogs whose behaviour I can not predicate that is under my care is "never " allowed off leash!
She should not be around other dogs! She is clearly a Dominant female! You have work to do!

So...
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And these to keep problems in the household from happening!
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And what you can do to help establish who is in charge and how you expect your dog to behave!
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And this...just in case:

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You are in the deep end of the pool! I have many years of experience with real dogs..Boxers, Bullmastiff/APBT/Lab mix and Boxer/Pitt mixes and GSD.

And I will only have a single female dog in my household and that slot is reserved for a single female Boxer!

There are people on here that have multiple female households. They are better then me! I got no problem with that!
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Thanks for all the tips and information given, Ocean definitely is a dominant female, and until she is predictable she will always be on leash when going out of the house. There is also one other thing i forgot to mention she is also a really big bully..........

Whenever I had taken them out for a walk late a night just up and down the street, She is always the first one to speedily go out the gate before me or Azzra, and when me or Azzra finnally do come out she always jumps at us and tries to start play fighting (( so it seams )) fastly she ignores me but she always keeps at it with Azzra, She will literally stand in front of Azzra and growl wiggly and shake jump up and keep growling sometimes barking, If Azzra tries to walk around her Ocean usually strikes at the back legs, when Azzra turns around to make her stop Ocean jumps to the side and almost like body checks Azzra on the side, and she does this every time we go for a walk...
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Honestly.. right now she controls the house, not you. She's the leader and that suits her just fine. You have given her this title and has excepted it.

If this was my dog, she would not be allowed to make any decision for 30-90 days.
She would eat when I decided. No food from a bowl, 100% hand feeding.
If she wasn't working or training directly with me she would be in her kennel.
I would work a ton of foundation work.
Sit, stay, down, come, etc..., threshold work. No more busting out of doors.
The goal is to get her to be more focused on you and what you are asking her to do and less worried about what is going on around her.

She will "buck" the system. She has been in control and she may not like the changes. You have to be firm but fair.

*I would also add you need to contact a good trainer/behaviorist in your area to help you work through these issues.

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Honestly.. right now she controls the house, not you. She's the leader and that suits her just fine. You have given her this title and has excepted it.

If this was my dog, she would not be allowed to make any decision for 30-90 days.
She would eat when I decided. No food from a bowl, 100% hand feeding.
If she wasn't working or training directly with me she would be in her kennel.
I would work a ton of foundation work.
Sit, stay, down, come, etc..., threshold work. No more busting out of doors.
The goal is to get her to be more focused on you and what you are asking her to do and less worried about what is going on around her.

She will "buck" the system. She has been in control and she may not like the changes. You have to be firm but fair.

*I would also add you need to contact a good trainer/behaviorist in your area to help you work through these issues.
Starting over would not hurt: It would go something like this, it can be done but it would be really hard at this point!

Then there is this, not quite as much work but again really hard at this point:
Sit on the Dog

That might be a better way to go? All you have to do is teach your dog to do is...nothing!
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You don't have an aggressive dog, you have a typical Boxer! It's not a Beale or a Lab more laid back dogs that don't have the craziness built in! Boxers are not easy dogs to train but it can be done! Without a solid foundation in basic obedience and good leadership skills what you see is what they will do!

If on a walk the dog is out in front and the leash is tight? You will "never" get control of the dog!

Look at the video on loose leash walking, "you" can do that! Look at the sit on dog thread "you' can do that! Those two alone my solve most of your issues!

No harm in getting a trainer involved they can teach you how to teach your dog.

There is also this service available, works like NetFlix. You can rent dog training DVD's for a monthly feed. Educating yourself needs to be your first step!

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It's impossible to say whether Ocean has dog aggression or not. Someone that knows what they are looking for would have to be there to see what's happening.

Starting over is the best opinion at this point. Not to bash the OP but it sounds as though the foundation was never really established to start with.


While you can learn a great deal from videos it's no comparison to having one on one time with a good trainer. He/She can point things out that your not even aware of.
That being said, be sure they are good, research as much about them as you can. Unfortunately there are more bad trainer then good trainer but a good one with worth then the time and money.
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Ocean looks so cute and harmless
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Ocean looks so cute and harmless
This!

Certainly getting eyes on the dog is the best way to know for sure. The OP "does" need to spend time with a trainer because, she needs to be shown how to train her dog.

Sorry but this does not sound like an "Aggressive dog!" It's a dog that has no rules boundaries or limitations! Pretty sure a pro would label this dog as "typical" for a Boxer with no rules.

The German Shepard Forum has a sub forum under Training and Behaviour titled Aggression (the good, the bad & the ugly) if anyone wants to know what "Aggression" problems look like go there! 81 pages and hundreds of threads!

These are all management issues, they are all going to be harder to fix now because this dog will have alot of bad habits to unlearn!

This would be a start:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NuxRq1ppp4

And of course not "everyone" can fix there dog over the internet! That does not mean that no one can! My GSD had serious "people issues!" I'd never had that problem prior to him! I'm a "pet person" nontheless I found the info I needed at Leerburgh "Who Pets my Puppy or Dog" that's what I did! Problem solved! Today he is safe in public and can go anywhere with me!

It's how I will train all my dogs in future, Specifically my next Boxer, my reason being save for her training my Boxer (Struddell) would have happily walked off or rode away with anyone! See ya dad found another new friend!

Stay in the car, stay on the lawn and no bolting out the door she did all that! I do want a people loving Boxer thatís one of the reasons I love Boxers! But I would prefer a bit more discrimination!
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Going to add this because I don't know how this dog is on a leash. It's a puppy but this is good foundation work!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e_1uCQUYvE
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