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Old 06-17-2017, 11:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi, new dog owner here. My pup is about 7 months old. I got him because of a potential service dog for anxiety. I train with him every day and give him some kind of affection. Hes finally way better at potty training. Hes great at getting in the back, sit, ect and being in the kennel. He has another dog to play with in the house and I take him running almost every day.

My problem is, he loves everyone else, not me. Jumps, kisses, cuddles, wiggles. He doesn't do that with me. Hes not even half excited to see me.

I'm not an enthusiastic person but I try to seem fun for him, it's like he knows I'm being fake. I don't beat him or anything, I'm always the one feeding him and taking him places, and what not.

Basically I'm on here to see what others have done with boxers and training and if anyone else has this problem.

Thank you!
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Old 06-18-2017, 04:50 AM   #2 (permalink)
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First so you know ... not every dog is cut out for service work! It takes a special dog and it takes a special "Temperment" a dog that is to aggressive makes a poor candiate for a service dog and dog that is to friendly makes a poor candiate for a service dog.

In the real world I have only seen one "Boxer Service" dog most likely she was doing what you want. I wanted to ask the owner some questions but as I observed the dog ... it struck me that any attention by a stranger would encourage the dog to lose focus?? So I kept my distance, and on TV many, many years ago I saw a "Seeing Eye" Boxer ... I was stunned!!

But you have to decide if "this" dog can't do the "Service Dog" thing, is she still, the right dog for you??? If she can't do that job... will you keep her as a pet??? What you want is a "working dog prospect" and only time and training can tell if a "prospect" puppy can do the job that is required.

Most likely and I don't know but when you took her out, you let her meet and greet everyone?? And you may or may not have used treats to make "sure" she was "good with people??" That makes sense but ... and although I don't do service dogs ... I'm gonna say ... that is not how it's done.

For a "typical" Boxer people are the next best thing to baked bread! When my BIL and his friend came over for holiday weekends. Daddy was pretty much forgotten about for the next two days.

Broadly speaking Labs, Golden's and Working Line GSD's (GSD's) ... bred specifically for service dog work and combined with the "Right Owner" are the usual suspects. Boxers can do the Service Dog, bit with the right training and the right dog and serious investment in time and training (more than the norm for the most part!)

Well I can go on and on and yes you can better improve your relationship with your dog ... I'll expand on it tomorrow.

But what you wanted to do was Exposure to people not Socialization with people.
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Leerburg | Who Pets Your Puppy or Dog

I don't agree with every word in the article ... I don't use treats or redirect for issues with people, I manage a dogs personnel space. But for the most part ... that is what you should have done. That's all for now as it's kinda late. Welcome aboard.
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Hi welcome to the forum. A boxer as a service dog, interesting and for anxiety? I presume from your post. First your dog is still very much a puppy at 7 months old. He still has a tons of training to do over the next 2 years when he will mature. You will find some "teenage years" with him along the way. I understand your doing the training on your own and I'm not sure exactly what a service dog does for anxiety? I mean that in the most honest way as I just don't know. I would continue to work with him but I would not do a meet & greet with other people and he should wear a harness saying service dog in training so that people will respect your and his space (hopefully) or you will have to say sorry you cannot pet him right now he is in training. Boxers do love everyone, at least most do, but he will love ou most even if you don't see it now. Our boxer will be 3 in Sept. He is very good now but it took most of this time to get him where he is and we still do little trainings with him to keep him on track. Hopefully this will work out for you
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SupraWiggleButt are you a vetran??? There are organazations that can help vets find or train a dog ... not entirely sure on the training thing but I think I saw that.
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No I'm not a vet. I just figured as when I was a child I met a boxer and ever since then I thought they were the funnest coolest dogs. Thought being a service dog as to getting me outside, playing with me, and make me smile. Him not caring about me at all and seeming to want to stay away from me if anyone is around and whining when someone else leaves and not coming to me, this all makes me sad and makes me feel like I should give him to someone else that he likes because clearly he doesn't like me.
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Hi there, we got a boxer for the same reason. My 11yr old daughter and i both have anxiety disorders and I read that boxer are on of the best breeds for that because of how much exercise they need and how funny they can be.

Gypsy is also 7 months old and I go through the same thing with her. She goes nuts when my husband or the kids come in the door from work and school. We are working on not letting her just and showing her that she will not get any affection or attention until she calms down. So, I assuming that because I am the main one training her that is why she ISN'T like that with me because she knows that that is not behavior I want from her.

That being said, as a fellow sufferer of anxiety and depression I have to keep my emotions in check and not take it personal as we do. Once I start to do that and realize that she is ACTUALLY listening to me it really do boost my mood and make me feel good because is is snuggly and affectionate with me but just in the way I want.

My biggest issue was teaching her sign language and getting everyone at home and visit to understand that this is the only way she can communicate because she will not magically begin to hear.

My advice as a sufferer and i'm also a new pet owner in general is to try to keep calm, take a step out of the emotions ( hard to do...I know) but you will realize that your pup is serving the purpose you got him/her for you just don't see it yet.

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No I'm not a vet. I just figured as when I was a child I met a boxer and ever since then I thought they were the funnest coolest dogs. Thought being a service dog as to getting me outside, playing with me, and make me smile. Him not caring about me at all and seeming to want to stay away from me if anyone is around and whining when someone else leaves and not coming to me, this all makes me sad and makes me feel like I should give him to someone else that he likes because clearly he doesn't like me.
Aww ... we just can't get a grip on what "not caring about you means over the internet??" The limits of technology as it were. Because as far as I'm considered ... what you describe is a typical well adjusted Boxer!

They just like people, as I said on a walk with my Struddell ... she just simply never met a stranger she did not like! And when company came over ... "Daddy" was pretty much forgotten??? As far as I'm concerned ... that is what they do! But at the end of the day when company was gone she was always ... "Daddy's baby girl! I'm gonna say a normal well behaved, well adjusted Boxer ... just likes people ... it's what they do and what I expect!

Heck I wanted my Struddell to be a theory dog as she dearly luv'd people but when I dug deeper into actually getting that accomplished ... I learned that a therapy dog cannot lick people??? Well that sucked and it was simply a battle not worth fighting for me. You've said nothing that makes your Boxer sound unusual to me??

Boxers, I do believe can be excellent working dogs ie Service Dogs, Theory Dogs, PPD ,MWD etc but ... they are a lot of work! If you wanted a dog that was "aloof' to people ... you should have gotten a "WL GSD!" But then ... you can very well face another set of issues! With a GSD it takes the right dog and the right owner to make that work! If you have an issue, it's the dogs job to lead you out and get you to the safety! The wrong GSD and the wrong owner ... and the dog could easily say "yep your right there is an issue here but have no fear ... I'll keep everyone back!!" That's not what you want. A GSD bonds closely to it's owners and that why they kinda suck as service dogs, some just can't pass on from the "Puppy Raiser" ownership. Some can but you have to know where to look to find those GSD's. Labs and Golden's are the service dogs of choice for a reason. Transfer of ownership being one of them.

It just does not sound like there is anything wrong with your dog but if he does not make you happy ... it's not gonna work.


Labs or Golden's are the service dogs of choice for a reason. Easy to train and no lingering bounds to the puppy raisers and no aggression issue (latent GSD Issue.) But Boxers as Service Dogs ... just not a good choice??? You need to take a step back and decide it this is the "BREED" for you?? Only you can make that call.
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As I said before, I am a new per owner in general who also suffers from anxiety as well as my daughter.

I totally agree with Chip that by the standards of what a service dog is supposed to do a boxer is not a good choice, but if I understood you correctly you wanted a boxer for the same reasons as I did...to help with the anxiety.

What I have noticed is that they actually do help with that and especially with depression. I mean...who could be depressed or worried about anything when you have a boxer carrying on in the way they do. They are so funny.

Believe me when I say getting a dog was not something that I wanted but it was try out having a dog or put my 11yr old on meds. That is something that I'm not willing to do. So I caved and went the dog route.
I did a lot of research and a boxer was the only dog that checked off a the boxes on our list.
Once we got over the disappointment of her being deaf and did the research again on how to train a deaf dog, I have noticed a HUGE difference in my daughter and I am glade that I caved and got a dog and a boxer at that.

There is nothing like the boxer goofyness to bring you out of the funk that we can get into.
The only things is like Chip said, is that the typical service dog duties won't be possible OUTSIDE of the house because focusing them when outside I have noticed is almost impossible.
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Just out of curiosity, I took a look here on picking a service puppy prospect.:
Picking a Service Dog Puppy Prospect: Temperament etc

New puppies and I of course wanted see and interact with all of them. But ... I couldn't, I wanted the male standing on the pile of his brothers and sisters ... barking his head off! I thought .... man that's the puppy for me! But as I knelt down out of the pile of puppies came (to become Struddell.) She climbed into my lap and promptly fell asleep??

Well ... I still wanted to see the other puppies but she was cute and you know ... I did not want to wake her up??? I asked about the barking puppy but he was already picked.
All the males were chosen ... apparently male dogs was a San Jose thing at that time?? I'd never even considered a girl?? But I actually needed a Boxer (nother story, PTSD caused by the loss of my Boxer/APBT as a matter of fact) and I was not going home without one. So after twenty minuets or so of more questions. I sighed and said ... I'll take this one.

Now I also did think at the time ... yeah this one is real fire cracker, that and also boy, girl what's the difference??? At any rate ... on that list Struddell fit 3 and 4.

Most likely ... she had Service Dog potential but I pretty much trashed that with lot's of meets and greets to uh ... pretty much everyone that asked "may I pet!" She ate stranger attention up and I luv'd making her happy!

Honestly ... I can't really say if she liked strangers more than she did me, nothing I ever thought about or noticed?? As long as she was happy ... so was I. But yeah most likely I trashed her service dog potential??? A few years later I did think about a "Therapy Dog" career for her as she luv'd people but the licking thing ... Therapy Dogs can't lick patients ... and stopping her from licking was just not something I was willing to do. She did have a bit of discipline in that guard but if people giggled or laughed ... it was game on!

And Gypsy'sMom ... your challenge is gonna be doubled a typical Boxer can heard you and just doesn't care. And I think the girls more so than the boys but I have not had a chance to work with any female Boxers other than my own.

At any rate ... your gonna have to double on the patience thing??? ANd ... questions are you using an E-Collar are you working with a trainer and did you get Larry Khron's E-Book???
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SupraWiggleButt ... how is it going??? Do you know what your going to do??? Is this your first dog??? If I go with that ... I think I can say that ... it sounds like you've done pretty good job. But if you truly wanted a "Working Dog" ... maybe not so much???

I'm just a "Pet Person" true working dog people are pretty hard core, they pick the right puppy prospect for the job they want the dog to and if the dog/puppy does not work out ... they swallow the lost and off you go to a new home ... if they are lucky!

Adopt a Malinois comes to mind ... ex military working dog wash outs ... the dog did not make the cut ... so off you go to a new home!

I don't like to see Boxers get re-homed, I don't think any of us like to see that happen??? But I'm pretty much neutral on advise. The owner has to decide what's best for them. If you decide this dog is not for you ... you could contact your local Boxer rescue and offer to foster in place and they will help you find your dog a new home.

I have done fostering myself ... three times, and I sucked at it! Only one time was I happy the phone rang! And that was a self entailed constantly run away Golden Retriever! The owner used fosters home as day care and the dog was a-hole! No fights or conflict he just had an attitude about him! I was glade to see him go! Pretty large dog by the way I was surprised ... I did not think Golden's were that big??

But the other two ... yeah that hurt .... Molly a herder dog ... I thought I did not like them but after many months of work ... we'd grown attached to her and then the phone rang!!!! The phone rang and someone wanted Rocky (Wobble GSD.) We actually packed up his stuff, I wrote a long letter and we sent him off at 7:00 am and we spent that Saturday crying.

Imagine our surprise and delight when Laura showed up later that day with Rocky!! The new owners never showed up! That was it off the list he is, he's staying here! I could not imagine re-homing a Boxer myself ... they tend to take the laughter with them when they leave us.

But plan B can you fit two dogs in your life?? You could keep the Boxer ... raise him to the 18 month mark and if all still works out and he is truly well behaved ... try again for the Service Dog you want???

And I would actually recommend a WL GSD ... with lots of research, the right dog and about 2000 to 2500 dollars at least on the right puppy! But let me explain my Rocky is most certainly ... not a Boxer ... he could careless about uh anyone aside from me and my wife. Indoors he pretty much just lays quietly by side. He doesn't play with toys, he doesn't do a lot of licking ... he's just not very much in the way of being demonstrative.
More of a partnership kinda thing instead of a "Daddy's Baby Girl."

He's a great dog ... but not a lot of laughs.

Aww well just some random thoughts.
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