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Old 07-22-2013, 05:36 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Forewarning: i am very blunt. I say it how it has to be said; take no offence. My input: sasasola is right. Also, breeding a dog whose litter mates have died is just plain stupid. Why would you put your pet at risk, AND the puppies she would be carrying?!
By the way you spell, you clearly are not educated enough to carry out the responsibility of over seeing the pregnancy, labor, and delivery of the pups you wish to breed.
If you wish to get another puppy that looks like yours, GO TO A REPUTABLE BREEDER! Learn from this experience! There are more than enough breeders out there that KNOW what they are doing. They do the right tests.
Why would you want a dog that has such health issues? If you are going for looks, talk to a good breeder. Look at the dam and sire.
Markings are second to health. Boxers are notorious for being susceptible to many diseases, and breeders are trying to breed such diseases out. By trying to reproduce a disease ridden dog, you aren't helping-- just being selfish. You clearly don't comprehend that.

If your friends and family want a puppy that looks like yours, there are some out there. Maybe not puppies, but they may need to be rescued. If they want a puppy to look like yours, they can find a reputable breeder. If they aren't willing to shell out the money for a good healthy dog, then they shouldn't have one. Puppies are expensive, they are babies!


On a lighter note: I hope your girl is healthy, and has a long happy life. Please don't put her through that.


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Old 07-22-2013, 05:47 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Breeding a dog with known problems is unethical because firstly the poor puppies will have no chance and secondly you're putting the new owners in a position of potential heartache and debt. I am sure there are many other reasons but these two would be what I see personally as the most important. And I am not a breeder!! I am just an owner.

Don't breed this dog, enjoy it as your spayed pet


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Old 07-22-2013, 05:49 PM   #13 (permalink)
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This is what i was figuring. You ask a question to try and educate your self and you get a key board jockey that has to go and insult people. I just said that because of information I have now I would not be breeding this puppy. She will be spayed at 6 months old when my vet. will do it. I also have a college degree just didn't realize the grammar police were here. I had a simple question but can see now that there are some people who have nothing better to do than insult people that are trying to learn something. If you notice I have not done anything yet just trying to educate myself on what I need to do. Thanks anyway.
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Old 07-22-2013, 06:03 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I am sorry that I failed to see your question, as it was in the middle of what you were saying.

Being that the question at hand is if you should expect anything from the breeder, I would say yes-- to an extent. In the event that your puppy doesn't make it to a certain agreed upon age, I would say thy you should either get a puppy from a different litter(with a different sire!), or get a full refund. I would just talk to the breeder and ask for some sort of concession. May it be half of your money back, a new puppy, ect. It never hurts to ask!

I'm sorry if I came off as rude. I do not intend to be. I just want the best for you, your children, your puppy, and the breed as a whole.


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By the way. I was provided with clean bill of health on the mother and father of the litter as well as bloodlines. The father had no heart conditions. The only thing that I did not get was a genetic test. Well as it turns out the father did pass on a reccessive gene. I was just wondering what I should do. But after consulting my vet i knew i wasnt going to breed her.
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I have not intended on breeding this dog since i got the phone call from the breeder. I was saying what I had intended to do. I will have her spayed as soon she is old enough.
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Old 07-22-2013, 06:26 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I would expect the breeder to allow you to keep the puppy you already have and also give you a new puppy from a healthy litter..... That is what I would ask for anyhow. That way the children don't have to give up a pet they have grown to love. I doubt the breeder wants this poor baby back.
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I would ask the same of the breeder as Brutus Josef says

That or demand that the breeder pays for vet bills as a consequence of their negligent practices but I doubt that would fly!!


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Old 07-22-2013, 07:08 PM   #19 (permalink)
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As far as expecting anything from the breeder - what is in the contract ?

I am glad you have decided against breeding her, it wouldn't be fair to her, her offspring or any potential owners.

Welcome to the forum from NJ, BTW

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Old 07-22-2013, 08:50 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Did both parents have an echo and holter done? And are you talking about the ARVC test?


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