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ro11ovr 07-22-2013 04:41 PM

question about what to expect
I have a 10 week old reverse brindle female. I bought her from a reputable local breeder that gave us bloodline papers for mother and father. I got her because i have a 12 year old fancy boxer and she is the perfect dog but is getting old. I got the female so that when my old girl passes i could breed the pup to replace her. The breeder called the other day to inform me that my pups 2 brothers (there were only 3 in the litter) had dies of heart problems and that the entire litter with another female had died after i got my pup and all died from hear problems. The mother has had pups before and never had this problem so they are confident the the male is passing on a recessive gene. Anyway we have talked to a vet and a couple knowledgeable people and they say that as long as she doesnt have a heart murmur than she will more than likely have a long happy life but since she is carrying the recessive gene we should not breed her. My question is should i expect anything back from the breeder as i bought her at full asking price for a healthy dog that i could breed. I have 5 children with 3 being 5 and under and although she has offered to replace the pup out of ner next litter I cannot take this one from my kids. We all lover her and she is a beautiful dog. I am just dissapointed because I looked long and hard for the reverse brindle and wanted to breed her for myself and some family and friends that love the way she looks. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

sasasola 07-22-2013 04:47 PM

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Your question is against forum rules.

Please read the Boxer Forum rules here:

ro11ovr 07-22-2013 04:54 PM

Can you explain why? I was just looking for some guidance. Both the mother and father were tested healthy. They just did not do genitic testing on the mail to determine that he carried a reccessive gene. I was just hoping for some friendly advice on what to do. You can Private message me if that would be better and maybe tell me how i can ask my question to adhere to the rules.

sasasola 07-22-2013 05:08 PM

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We don't encourage unethical breeding. Breeding your dog just to have another from the same bloodline is not ethical. What will happen to all the other puppies? Are there not enough dogs in shelters being killed every day because someone thought it would be "fun" to breed their dog and sell the puppies?

To be an ethical breeder you have to ensure your dog meets the breed standards by putting in the TIME showing your dog and winning points. You have to get them health tested: heart holter, thyroid, hips, genetic testing - not just an "OK" from your vet. Also, doing the research to determine if any of the dogs in the ancestry had any health problems.

If you haven't done any of this, you are breeding unethically. And if you are breeding unethically, no one is going to answer your questions.

ro11ovr 07-22-2013 05:14 PM

sorry.... i have friends and family that have asked about her since i got her and her puppies would go to them and then she would be spayed. I have no problem with shelter animals i just liked the idea of having them from pups. I grew up with cattle and even had a few of them as pets over the years. This is my first thought of breeding a dog so i do realize i have some things to learn about how and what needs to be done. Maybe you could have taken a little time to educate someone and not seem so blunt and rude. I think I have a valid question and concern and thought that the breeder i got my puppy from was responsible. Genetic testing never occured to me as something to look for.

sasasola 07-22-2013 05:17 PM

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I wasn't trying to be blunt or rude. Just stating the facts.

I apologize if it seemed that way.

ro11ovr 07-22-2013 05:23 PM

sorry for getting that. I am just trying to learn. I am not interested in show dogs hence getting the reverse brindle. I dont thing you can show a reverese(I could be wrong) I just wanted to have a good dog to replace my 12 year old boxer that was a rescue. She was abandoned. She has been a perfect dog. I have 5 children 3 of them 5 and under and I dont think I have ever seen a dog with a better tempermant around the kids or more protective of them either. I got this new pup hoping she would learn some from my old girl. If the new pup is half the dog as my old girl then that is why i would want one of her pups. If this is unethical as far as it goes i will just leave this forum and get my information else where. I thought I would be able to learn here to take care of my dogs.

sasasola 07-22-2013 05:26 PM

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There is a lot of information sharing on here about how to take care of your dogs. For sure that is welcome and discussed all the time.

However, I honestly don't think anyone on here will support you breeding your dog for the reasons that you have mentioned so far. Sorry, just letting you know! There are a lot of people that feel very strongly about this subject on this forum as well.

ro11ovr 07-22-2013 05:31 PM

well i think i am going to just politly bow out of this forum. Although it probably has plenty of useful information. I feel like I am a responsible pet owner and am not looking to breed for a living nor will i let my pets have unwanted litters. I do not want to put up with a bunch of people who are going to look down because i would like to keep a boxer as a pet and not show. Don't have time for it. Nor do I think I would enjoy it. I just like the breed and tempermant of the boxers after having been abound a few. They are good with children and that is my main concern.

sasasola 07-22-2013 05:34 PM

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It's nothing to do with showing your pet. You missed the point. Most of us own boxers as pets.

Good luck to you. I sincerely hope you do some more research before you breed your pet and hopefully you will change your mind.

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