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Old 03-17-2009, 10:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Not sure I put this in the right place. Has anyone heard of boxilla bloodlines ? I am emailing with a gentleman that has one for sale with this bloodline. We are looking around to add are second boxer to the family. Murdoc will be so happy to have a playmate his size. This is not a breeding question sorry just trying to find out about this bloodline. Thanks


Edit: Just to let you know I deleted the duplicate post in the general boxer forum.

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Old 03-17-2009, 11:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't know anything about those bloodlines and couldn't find anything about them when I did a search. IMO having a puppy with Champions in their bloodline isn't as important as what the breeders are doing with them, have the parents been health tested, were the parents shown, if this is a repeat breeding what has been the health of the previous puppies. Are both parents on the premises or did they go outside to add some different quality to their lines? Do the breeders sell with a pet contract that requires they be spayed?

If you look at the stickies in the breeding section, there are several with information on what to look for in a good breeder. Personally, having a piece of paper that says 3, 4 generations ago they had a champion in there bloodline doesn't mean much to me. I would want a healthy, good tempered, well bred dog that conforms as best it can to the standard.



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Old 03-17-2009, 11:55 AM   #3 (permalink)
 
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The pup I am looking at is not from that bloodline. I was just curious if anyone here heard of it. I am actually more interested in another one he has he has 2 litters. Both her parents have been health tested. It is the dam's first litter she is 3 years old. The sire has had other pup's he is 5 years old. They did give me contact info on people that bought some of the sire's pups in the past. They do sale some with pet contracts but the one I am buying is not god knows I will be paying enough to have full rights.
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Old 03-17-2009, 11:58 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Never head of them - I saw the online ad for puppies in or near Cinny that are for sale from those lines. However I am thinking if they are trying to name drop - it would be "Boxella Boxers" not boxilla - sound like they are trying to confuse people to think they are lines but they did not get the name correct.
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That's great that the pup you are looking at is health tested. All I could find when I typed in that bloodline was BYB's so that is why I said what I did



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Old 03-17-2009, 12:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
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They do sale some with pet contracts but the one I am buying is not god knows I will be paying enough to have full rights
ok....you are paying more for full rights, this mean a show prospect with co-ownership maybe? If any breeder is charging more $$$ for a breedable pet, without some kind of show or co-ownership, I would question their placement practices. Only saying....why do responsible / reputable breeders breed? To produce dogs that conform to health, confirmation and temperment. If and when they get one or a few that do, most I know have hard times letting a good propsect go without being able to show them (its good for their kennel name and breeding program if said prospect is outstanding) and most place with co-ownership.

Dont know all your details, just wanted to point that out -
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Boxella is a very well-known breeder, if that is what you are talking about. In fact, Shamrock's Mother Flora's American Sweetheart is a Boxella dog.

His Mother was breed from Boxella's Tantalizen Millie and CH Boxella's Masterkey and Joe Heine of Boxella Kennels is featured in this month's Boxer Ring magazine on page 19.

Joe is in his 90s and I believe they live in Ohio. This is a well-known kennel. You should check the AKC papers of the sire and dam and see if this is a match.

It is really important to physically see the AKC papers, have them scan to PDF or fax if they are not local. Then google the kennel names, then you will know if you are dealing with a reputable breeder or not.
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I would also add that you really only should have full registration if you plan to breed. And, if a boxer has been deemed worthy of being breed by a breeder who knows the boxer breed well, then many reputable breeders will discuss that with you and also encourage you to show. Otherwise, they will place a dog on limited registration to discourage boxers that have faults not to be duplicated.

Our breeders wanted Shamrock to be breed because they felt he was a good example of the breed. But, they had no idea we were going to show him. We just decided to show.

Paying top dollar means nothing unless you are planning to show or breed and if that is the case, they should sell the dog on a show contract and find a home for the boxer for a family that is willing to show. Just my thoughts...
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What kind of application is the breeder asking you to fill out? Is it detailed, and do they want a reference from your current vets? They should be particular about where their pups are going.

Looking at the AKC papers is important. Our contract with our breeder stated we had to register our pup with the AKC (using the litter registration form provided by the breeder) before the time limit on the form expired. We also had to be a current member of the United States Boxer Association which had guidelines regarding breeding to FCI standards among other things.

That's exciting that you may have a new member of the family. I hope it works out.

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Oops it was me fat fingering the key board it is Boxella. Sorry..
I never said I was paying more just that I was paying enough to have full rights.
This breeder is retiring due to his health is the only reason these 2 females are available. Nether one are little puppies they are 6 & 8 months old. I am not sure I am getting one of them or not just looking. Was planning on waiting till next year but then I ran across these 2 girls and at a good age and already housebroken and crate trained. With Murdoc now housebroke I wasn't looking forward to starting all over again.
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