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CKY 12-10-2013 11:37 PM

Alberta breeders, natural tails
 
Hi all,
I am new to this forum. I have always loved boxers and do not have one yet, but am continuing my research by joining this forum!

I have a question for those in Western Canada. I know the issue of docked/natural tails has been debated to death, so I'm not looking to get into that. What I am wondering is if anyone knows of any Alberta (or Western Canada) boxer breeders that would be open to leaving a natural tail for a pet puppy?

Also, if anyone has any tips for discussing this with the breeder that would be great. I am nervous about being discounted right off the bat, or worse, having the breeder angry with me just for asking! I do have specific reasons for wanting this, in addition to the usual reasons. Those don't really pertain to the discussion but I will expand if necessary.

Thanks in advance! =)

Kaco Boxers 12-11-2013 12:04 AM

The problem with approaching a breeder with leaving a dogs tail intact is that you would need to be 1st pick on their waiting list and also you would have to make your puppy choice by 2 days of age as this is around the time that docking occurs.

If you are set on keeping a tail why not look to provinces that have it banned or importing from another country where it is not allowed?

Mattie's Mom 12-11-2013 08:34 AM

Are you only interested in a pup? There are a few older (4 - 6) dogs around with natural tails in western canada.

CKY 12-11-2013 11:58 AM

2manydogs, yes, that is something I have thought of. My thought was that I would likely have to be on a waiting list for close to a year to get to the top of it, and hopefully get first pick of the litter. My plan would then be to pay the full puppy's price up front (for the breeder's security that I wouldn't back out, and they would be left with a puppy with a tail), and would choose within a couple days of them being born before tails are docked. Does this sound reasonable to you?

Mattie's Mom, I would be hoping for a puppy first. If this ends up being impossible, I'd look at adult dogs. Are these dogs you mentioned rescues? I am a member of the Boxer Rescue Canada and Boxers Without Borders facebook pages but I haven't seen any available dogs with tails.

Thanks for your replies! Please keep them coming :)

yrichard 12-11-2013 12:19 PM

You would have to ensure that you are going with a breeder that is not keeping any puppies for herself/himself. I had first pick of the litter but it was after the breeder chose the ones she wanted to keep for breeding or show.

owenowlsnest 12-11-2013 12:30 PM

You might want to research Schutzhund sport clubs in Canada. The Boxer breeders who are involved here in the US usually leave the tails intact. If you are in line to get a puppy you have the option of having the tail cropped when the litter is born. More breeds, like Boxers and Rotties are able to train at these clubs. Before it was mainly the GSD.

You would want to work closely with a breeder who would only place a puppy that was suitable for a family dog.

Mattie's Mom 12-11-2013 01:23 PM

CKY
No the ones I know of are not rescues, one for sure is a male that was brought in for breeding. I have the same advise Kari had look for dogs in provinces or states where it is illegal to dock.

HerculesCasey 12-11-2013 01:33 PM

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better off in other countries. here in Nova scotia docking is banned.. but most breeders dont care and do it anyways. hercules has dew claws and tail but i know of lots of breeders who still do it

canadianjem 12-11-2013 03:11 PM

I got Kona from Lookaway's Boxers just outside of edmonton. They breed Morgan horses and boxers.

Shannon, is sooooo lovely and quite sure she would be open to any conversation.

Lookaway's Boxer Home Page

Kaco Boxers 12-11-2013 04:30 PM

I am actually thinking of leaving a litter intact next spring. I have had several people inquire about leaving the tails so I will send out a few emails and maybe place everyone on that list.

I have two girls with tails and you get use to seeing them. I actually couldn't picture them with nubs.


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