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Old 02-14-2014, 07:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey all,
I'm trying to find a good breeder in my area, and this is one of the breeders I found. According to the test results they show, all of the females tested as at risk for DM and one of the males tested as a carrier for ARVC?
Feedback would be great, as I am new at this finding a breeder business.
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Old 02-14-2014, 03:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Do they do anything else? I would want a minimum of a holter, echo, and thyroid along with the DM and ARVC.


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I would want to see all health testing results and make sure that the males they are bred to are DM negative.
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I've been looking at different Breeders also gonna be a while and I'm looking for another White Baby girl.

Been burned by BYB twice I had no idea in the past but now I do!

Anyway I found a site it looked pretty good, Past Champions etc, etc and they list the health test.

So I'm looking and under the girls, moma Boxer shows A/A for DM???? And though they actually have a bunch of useful info on caring for a DM dog! Which is great to know if it happens but it was like they were saying it's not a big deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WTH???? I thought Breeding was about improving the Breed?? Oh and mom was a Flashy. I thought the point of Breed improvement was to eliminate bad genes from the gene pool? Would'nt that be best accomplished by not breeding any dog that carries either gene?

Not pairing AA with clear just get rid of the AA gene all together. Am I missing something????????????

I will stay as far away from that gene as possible!
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So I'm looking and under the girls, moma Boxer shows A/A for DM???? And though they actually have a bunch of useful info on caring for a DM dog! Which is great to know if it happens but it was like they were saying it's not a big deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WTH???? I thought Breeding was about improving the Breed??

Would'nt that be best accomplished by not breeding any dog that carries either gene?
At this point there's not enough dogs in the gene pool to only breed clears. I believe about 13% now of all Boxers tested for DM are clear. You would be cutting out almost 90% of the gene pool which would be harmful. The test for DM is new, there really hasn't been enough time for breeders to really start making an impact with their breeding to produce only clear dogs. Some believe that having carriers can also be a good thing as it may be a protecting gene and don't want to completely get rid of carriers either. Most breeders are working to breed to carriers first and then clear. They don't want to scrap their lines just because of DM.

Although DM isn't a pretty disease it's not painful for the dog and normally strikes them at a late age. I'm not saying it isn't a big deal though. Most are mainly breeding away from disease that will strike them at a younger age and that will be painful and possibly fatal for them like cancer, heart problems, JRD, hip dysplasia, etc. It's seen as a lesser of the evils right now.


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did anyone here ever hear of Blazin Boxers in Tennessee? opinions?
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did anyone here ever hear of Blazin Boxers in Tennessee? opinions?
An internet search of them: they have a 24 x 30 heated kennel, no mention of health testing, selling puppies for $500 with full breeding rights (except for whites)

Sounds BYB to me !!!
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An internet search of them: they have a 24 x 30 heated kennel, no mention of health testing, selling puppies for $500 with full breeding rights (except for whites)

Sounds BYB to me !!!
I agree. I wouldn't get a puppy from them ever. I would run to a different breeder.


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thanks for the info.....saw them on facebook, and everyone was raving about their pups..
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At this point there's not enough dogs in the gene pool to only breed clears. I believe about 13% now of all Boxers tested for DM are clear. You would be cutting out almost 90% of the gene pool which would be harmful. The test for DM is new, there really hasn't been enough time for breeders to really start making an impact with their breeding to produce only clear dogs. Some believe that having carriers can also be a good thing as it may be a protecting gene and don't want to completely get rid of carriers either. Most breeders are working to breed to carriers first and then clear. They don't want to scrap their lines just because of DM.

Although DM isn't a pretty disease it's not painful for the dog and normally strikes them at a late age. I'm not saying it isn't a big deal though. Most are mainly breeding away from disease that will strike them at a younger age and that will be painful and possibly fatal for them like cancer, heart problems, JRD, hip dysplasia, etc. It's seen as a lesser of the evils right now.


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Well I Lost my baby girl to DM hit her hard at 8.5 yrs so I'm a bit jaded. But thank you for the thoughtful response but 13% percent clear??? That's really depressing to hear!
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