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Old 12-06-2010, 09:42 PM   #71 (permalink)
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So this Serena at Sadoren kennels is located in Canada? Whereabouts?
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Old 12-07-2010, 12:09 AM   #72 (permalink)
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(Sidenote... Sami, welcome to the forum!! I don't know about other people, but if I were a prospective buyer, I think it would be GREAT if you posted a list of all the specific health tests you do, on your website! I don't think it is a waste of space at all. Rather, it would show people you care and instil more trust when they first go to your site.)[/QUOTE]

I agree!! In my search for a puppy, if I didn't see anything about health testing on the breeder's website, I assumed it was probably a BYB and moved on to the next one. I would DEFINITELY post that info.
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Old 12-07-2010, 12:45 AM   #73 (permalink)
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I've personally met Sami when I picked up Mya (Undiene Von Liebsthal) at the airport. She is passionate about breeders and is very serious at what she does. She was actually there to pick up one of Mya's sisters as well. Mya's has Boksdorn Pedigree. SHe was to use one of Mya's sisters for her breeding. Both were sired by the famous Angelo.

She was also there to pick up Horas (van de Bosksdorn) to use as a stud.

The stud Angelo that she mentioned is Mya's dad. Great pedigree that originates in Europe. I got Mya from a breeder that is friends with Sami.

Also, Primo Von Holland who is owned by CharlieBoxer (Brennan) is one of her pups.

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Old 12-07-2010, 03:07 AM   #74 (permalink)
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Primo von holland is a gorgeous pup. (If we're talking about the same puppy lol)
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Old 12-07-2010, 10:15 AM   #75 (permalink)
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Welcome Sami. There are a few of us here who have Boxers from US Kennels that import dogs bred to compete for Schutzhund titles. The majority of pups go to active working homes. The US Boxer Association site gives information on these kennels and their activities.

I'm not a breeder, and certainly can't give any comments about your kennel. I'm not being confrontational, but had a couple questions.

Some of the imports who've done well in Schutzhund are extremely high-drive, independent dogs. How is that bred out of them so that they make a suitable family pet? My experience is that they can be lovely family dogs, but they do need an outlet like tracking, advanced obedience, agility, etc.

I notice you mention the following trainer on your site.


I don't know this trainer, but wonder if he is doing Schutzhund training, and what qualifications he has. My concern would be that a new, novice Boxer owner might train their Boxer for protection work. There are only a few trainers in the US who really know what they're doing training Boxers in Schutzhund. Sadly, there are some breeders who've combined the US and Euro-bred for protection work. Would you discourage this?

Not to put you on the spot, just some concerns for discussion.
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Old 12-07-2010, 01:06 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by lizzardran08 View Post
Primo von holland is a gorgeous pup. (If we're talking about the same puppy lol)
Yes, Primo is the same pup
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Old 11-17-2011, 02:10 PM   #77 (permalink)
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To the two above posts,danroc,you have not ever sent neuter papers.With out them,registration is papers are with held,as per stated in the sale contract.Also,after a few emails,never heard from you again.
Same goes with Stella.And Stella; you must be the couple I met in Langford,whom were very tired from your trip and quickly picked up your pup.I handed you the vet booklet.I place my pups at 8 weeks old.There is NO WAY I told you that she had 2 sets of shots! It is also stated in the contract,which you signed and I still have a copy,that they receive their first set of vaccinations.Send me her spay certificate as stated in the contract.

And for all the others who need clarification,I would like you to look at all these beautiful dogs you are raving about from Schatten Boxers...all of her current females are either from me or out of my foundation.As well as 2 of Holland Boxers; and to date,have a close working relation ship between us.Sadoren Boxer produces outstanding Boxers that are a benefit to the Boxer breed.

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Old 11-17-2011, 03:06 PM   #78 (permalink)
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Old 11-17-2011, 03:09 PM   #79 (permalink)
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I bought my Zoe for $300. With no health guarntee, and she the most healthiest boxer i've ever seen an the breeder we got her from had papers for her mom, but not the dad. What was good when we bought her is that we seen her mom, grandma, and the other litter mates that were on site. After doing some thinking, she might be euro since she is 24-25 incehs tall and tipping the scale at 90-91 pounds.
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Old 11-17-2011, 04:05 PM   #80 (permalink)
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Her size and weight does not make her European, her bloodlines do.
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