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Old 07-06-2010, 12:51 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I've learned the hard way that it is hard to tell if you can trust your breeder.I put all my trust in a breeder just to find out that yeah she does it for the money. Very disappointing. She let us visit Jax when he was 3 weeks old and didnt send any pictures or anything until 2 days before we picked him up. I feel like we rescued Jax. Our first trip to the vet we were told that he had coccitius , an egg larve in his neck from a fly that had to be cut out (we were told it was from a bite from the other puppies)and he was malnourished.Jax was 2lbs the day we got him. He is doing much better now and is getting bigger everyday. The breeder was terrible. The birthdate on the akc papers are not even correct and after looking up what everything on the akc papers mean we found out that his mom had a litter of puppies in september of last year. I felt like I did my research finding this breeder . I can't even say how disappointed I am at this lady ,but we are very happy with Jax.
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Old 07-06-2010, 01:07 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I've learned the hard way that it is hard to tell if you can trust your breeder.I put all my trust in a breeder just to find out that yeah she does it for the money. Very disappointing. She let us visit Jax when he was 3 weeks old and didnt send any pictures or anything until 2 days before we picked him up. I feel like we rescued Jax. Our first trip to the vet we were told that he had coccitius , an egg larve in his neck from a fly that had to be cut out (we were told it was from a bite from the other puppies)and he was malnourished.Jax was 2lbs the day we got him. He is doing much better now and is getting bigger everyday. The breeder was terrible. The birthdate on the akc papers are not even correct and after looking up what everything on the akc papers mean we found out that his mom had a litter of puppies in september of last year. I felt like I did my research finding this breeder . I can't even say how disappointed I am at this lady ,but we are very happy with Jax.
I am sorry you had to go through so much with your new puppy. Was the puppy alright at 3 weeks? And if he wasn't in a good shape on the day of pick-up, you had the right to refuse the puppy. Although, god knows what could have happened to Jax if you didn't pick him up. So, what's done is done and is done for the better. Jax will appreciate everything you are doing for him.
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Old 07-06-2010, 01:14 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Jax looked a little small when we seen him at 3 weeks but he looked healthy. The breeder kept telling us the whole time that he was doing good and that he was growing great and getting big. when we picked him up I could tell that something was wrong with him , we took him to the vet the next day. I guess we feel in love with him from the beginning. My last boxer passed away on MAy 8th of this year. We wanted to give a Jax a chance . We knew that if he stayed with her that he wasnt going to make it . She met us at a burger king to get him. We are not sure if any of the rest of the puppies even made it.
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Thank you for your comments. There is more to me, my website, what I do, MY breeding and my importing than what's been commented on.
I am off to Europe for a show, will get back here once I am back and over the jetlag.
This is a little off-topic, but when you get a chance I'd be interested in hearing how the recent change to the United States Code regarding importation of live dogs - which prohibits bringing in puppies younger than six months of age for resale - has affected the import side of your business. The rule was 'snuck into' the 2008 Farm Bill, supposedly intended to stop the importation of sick puppies from substandard foreign facilities - but as usual with AR-backed legislation, the actual effects of the law have a significant impact on responsible breeders and owners. Brokering puppies isn't something I'm likely to get into, but I've always appreciated the fact that there were people in the US with established relationships to overseas breeders, should I ever desire an imported puppy - it's far easier to get a quality dog that way than as an 'unknown' approaching a foreign breeder. This new law largely takes away that advantage, if one wants a younger puppy anyway.
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I am very weiry of buying anything from the states,all the breeders are always fighting and bickering and I have heard so many horror stories.....:(((
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That's not really true -- just as with bad reviews and bad experiences, for every one negative you hear there are usually 10 positives. Most breeders in the US get along fine and help each other out whenever necessary.
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Old 04-17-2011, 04:42 PM   #27 (permalink)
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The other comment that i have seen on here is that breeders shouldn't talk about the price of keeping and running a program... or justifying their puppy prices... though i don't feel that breeders should need to justify their prices if they do I do not have a problem with them explaining the costs involved.

1) the cost of a honest ethical breeding program/requirements of running feeding, training, showing etc do serve to deter some BYB...
2) when they are using the information to show how the puppy funds are invested into the breed (full disclosure)
3) to show how the price or the pup reflects the costs of providing the years care... thus aiding in the prospective owner gauge whether they can afford to keep the egg head...
4) to show what aspects of canine sport is participated in by the kennel and the costs of participating in them with their new furling. Also shows a comparative cost of breeders training / participation in sport. This facilitates streamlining of your program or the utilization of their trainer/training program for effectiveness, feasibility or finical reasons. (if a breeder was spending 50% less to finish their dogs as another breeder or I as a trainer does,... i would want to know why and how/what i could learn from them.- if they value their line and puppies they will be glad to show/tell you how to finish them or gain titles/letters...)

maybe their program is just more efficient then yours or others you have seen and you want to use the financials to identify the benefits of switching... if anyone says that $$$ or savings are not important during these finical times is either lying or so well off that it has gone totheir head and they feel they are not subject to the laws of economics LOL

However, if they are braging about how much they spend on their programs or are trying to justify unreasonable prices or the numbers just don't add up....they i I have a problem with it... also if they are converting funds into another exchange IE from CAD to US or from EURO to US to artificially inflate the price and do not disclose this... then its just plain fishy... either way talk to your prospective breeder and trust your gut...

you just cant paint all breeders with the same brush even if some characteristics that presented at dishonesty in another breeder
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