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Old 03-20-2014, 11:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Our 10.5 month old male Seamus has had a few incidents at the dog park recently. To start, I should mention that I'm aware that intact dogs aren't supposed to be at the dog park. But seeing as how he LOVES playing with other dogs, and up until recently there hasn't been any problems, I've been taking him anyway. I really wanted to wait until he was a bit older but we've had a few instances recently with other dogs getting very aggressive with him. He's also become aware that he's not the little pipsqueak that he used to be and he's not backing down. I have no problem controlling him but the same can't be said for a lot of other owners unfortunately.

It's funny, I always thought that the noticeable effects of having an "intact" dog around neutered dogs was something that was greatly exaggerated and was largely used by irresponsible owners to excuse bad behaviour/habits on the part of their dogs. I no longer think that, and I'm not sure what gave me that impression in the first place.

Anyway, any tips/advice would be appreciated. Thanks!

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Also, he's tipping the scales at about 80lbs now at 10 and a half months, would that be considered big for his age?
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Old 03-20-2014, 11:22 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Duke's intact and he used to play at dog parks probably until about 18 months old. He was fine until that point and we only stopped because it was too far away. He plays with other Boxers now that are intact and meets other intact and spayed dogs. Is he actually fighting or just aggressively playing?

Also if you post a side shot we could get a better idea for his weight. 80 pounds is bigger than ideal normally.

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Either have him neutered or stop going to the dog park. Other dogs know an intact dog from one that has been fixed, some dogs will start to pick or gang up on that intact dog and then your dog starts to fight back. There is a reason why there is a general rule of no intact animals at leash free dog areas. More often than not it doesn't work and you are then placing your dog in a horrible situation that can have long term behavioural effects on him.
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Old 03-20-2014, 11:54 AM   #4 (permalink)
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You're right 2manydogs. We have stopped taking him and are booking an appointment to have him fixed. Playing at the dog park is his favourite thing to do and the last thing we want to do is deprive him of that. Thanks for your input.

SaharaNight Boxers- They were fights. Fights that were instigated by other dogs, and fights that were broken up quickly, but fights nonetheless. I don't have any side shots of him on me, but I'm positive he's not overweight(if that's what you were wondering). He's slim and in good proportion, he's just large. I was just wondering if he's at 80lbs(or close to anyway) at 10.5 months, what size should we expect him to be when he's fully grown?
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I was thinking he was trying to start fights. I agree with neutering though if he's getting picked on.

He might just end up being a really big boy. Duke was about 70lbs at 10 months and he's matured to about 85 lbs now. I would just make sure he's not growing too fast.


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Well it's great that your dog enjoys the dog park but you need to decide if your dog is for you and a few other under control doggy friends or is he going to be a chew toy for other dogs and the "I thought my dog was friendly folks?"

My dogs have never been at risk for being attacked harassed,, or rolled by another dog. They don't have problems that I need to fix because they were attacked by another dog.

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Your boy is gorgeous.. From ur pics he doesn't look over weight, just big. I have 2 males- they are both 60-65lb, one is small for a male the other is just too skinny (we are still trying to pack on the pounds). They are both 1.5-2 in age.

As far as dog parks and aggression go.. We too have trouble at the dog park. Buddha (our white boy) does great there and I wish we could take him more often. But because of Boss we can't. He starts fights every time we go. He has aggression problems. We are working on it. I was like you and didn't really believe in the whole neutering thing.. But changed my mind after a pretty bad fight this weekend and have actually booked both the boys in for "the chop". :/

A lot of dogs aggressive or not will still have problems at dog parks. Hopefully your boy will be fine once you neuter him. Mine were both fine untill boss reached about 13 months. I guess it's when the hormones start to really kick in.
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Just to the neutering point in my experience no it won't make a difference. It made no difference to my Dominant males.

Dogs roll out the box in "my" opinion being who they are, you can control a Dominant dog but you can't change them. My Struddell was a balanced dog I didn't do that it was just her nature. She could have been a dog park dog but no way was I willing to put her at risk around other dogs of which I had no knowledge or control!
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Well he is a looker for sure. My 2 and a half yr old male is intact. I havnt noticed aggressiin issues but then again I dont do dog parks...not a fan. He has a buff that us a neutered male lab with no problems. If he loves the park I'd get him fixed. I would try to wait until a year but that's just me. Sounds like he's a big boy and you won't be stunting his growth. Lol.

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Unfortunately you have the choice of either neutering him so that he can continue to enjoy the dog park, or leaving him intact so that he grow & fill out to his full potential, but then keeping him out of the dog parks. Sounds like he is already quite a big boy & at his age certainly has some more growing to do, but I don't think any harm has ever come from neutering a dog before he was fully grown. If you were saying you'd really rather not neuter him just yet my suggestion would be to exchange phone numbers with some of his dog park friends who play well with him & arrange for visits outside of the park, but it sounds like you've already decided that neutering is the way to go. A would have been my choice, too.

I always knew that having an unaltered male in a group could cause tension & start fights & I had seen it happen in training classes, but more recently its been made extremely clear to me. My cousin has a golden who is about a year and a half old. He is absolutely gorgeous, but looks aside he is the best tempered dog I've met in a really, really long time. My cousin has stayed in touch with his breeder from day one & before her dog even hit six months old the breeder asked if she would consider leaving him intact & eventually be interested in breeding him. Of course he will need to go through a ton of testing before that ever happens, but for now he is intact & fingers are crossed. Anyway, the point is that this dog is as mellow & easy going as they come. But she and I have taken our dogs to the dog park together a couple of times & both times we had to leave very quickly as normally well behaved, neutered males would go out of their way to try to go after him. And this was when he was just seven or eight months old. These dogs would charge at him & he would literally roll onto his back for them & they'd still want to go after him. So yes, the rule about not bringing an unaltered male into a dog park is truly there for a reason.
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