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Old 06-16-2015, 01:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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A few hours ago I had a heart wrenching experience. Loki was in his wire kennel while I took a quick shower. I heard a panicking scream that I never want to hear again coming from him. I run out to see what happened. To my horror his jaw was stuck in the bars. Both his k-9 teeth and his bottom jaw was wedged sideways in one of the bars. I manged to turn his head and wiggle his jaw off. No broken jaw and no blood. It is a collapsible crate so some how he pushed the crate out of the hinges and got his jaw stuck... I don't know..

I've zip tied all of the corners shut. It feel pretty secure but I'm still worried about what could've happen if we weren't home. I'm considering getting a plastic airline crate. Has anyone had and experiences with one? Was your dog able to eventually chew up the plastic or escape easily? Did they seem to like the crate? What size should I get for a full grown male boxer?
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Old 06-16-2015, 03:33 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I have not used a crate myself, nothing against them just never saw the need myself. But I know that if a dog feels forced to be in a crate and fights to get out?? There is a problem that needs to be addressed!

Your dog has separation anxiety a stronger crate won't fix his issues...training will.
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And don't know what your crate approach is/was but if/when I use one it will look like this:
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Old 06-16-2015, 07:51 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I had issues with a wire crate as well. Hank would get out if it. Tried latching the doors, but he could still force his way out.

I returned the wire crate and got a large heavy duty airline type crate. He really likes this. It is darker, so sometimes he goes in on his own to just chill - it is like his personal den. Plus it is indestructible, and no way he can get out. On command he now goes into it when I tell him to. Seems he does fine for a couple of hours in the crate. He is usually in the crate for 2 two hour sessions and maybe a couple of 30 minute sessions per day. I usually fill up his Kong or give him a dental chew treat when he is in for one of the 2 hour sessions. Put a nice mat in it also. One word of advice, get a strong mat. Initially had a cheap mat and he started chewing that up. This new mat is made from a very strong material and he has not tried to chew it.

This is very similar to the crate I got him.

http://www.chewy.com/dog/petmate-var...ennel/dp/51942
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I really don't think it's separation anxiety. I've had a dog with it before. It's more so that he just doesn't like the crate as much anymore. He was perfectly fine with it up until we had him on strict crate rest for those two weeks. He will still go in the crate on command but now generally doesn't like to go in it on his own just because. He is never let out in a excited state and will sit and wait with the door open until I give him the release command. He even stayed in the crate with door open yesterday when everything happened.

I occastionally will step out of the house and watch him from the kitchen window without him knowing to see how he will react and he does fine. Doesn't wine, bark or try to escape. I always make sure he's calm and relax when we leave. Yesterday we had a lot going on in the house so he had to be crated much longer then I would have liked which I think lead him to wanting to escape. We are teaching him the place command thanks to your suggestion on a previous post :-) thanks for that Chip18 . He defiantly needs more training to get him to find his crate as a safe haven again but in the process of training I just don't want something like that to happen again expecially when we aren't home.
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Animallove, I would agree with you. Hank had a lot of issues with the wire crate, but as soon as switched to the tougher built plastic crate - no issues. The best way to put it - the wire crate seems like a cage. The large plastic airline crate is more like a den or home.
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We have 6 plastic crates for 3 dogs (3 house ones, 2 in the car and one in my training room) and only use the wire ones for shows when were tight on space. I like the hard sides and my guys also just like to use them as their dens sometimes. Its actually pretty common for a dog to chew through or escape a wire crate but a plastic crate they will only get out if their is already damage or they chewed the outside. I highly reccomend a plastic over wire the only things I like about wire is they are collapsible for easy transport and they have that divider for puppy training
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We also have the wire crate, thank goodness no issues to date. The airline crates are good, I've had them with other dogs, in fact this is my first wire crate. I thought it wold be less restrictive as he could see all around, and get more air. For the heck of it I would contact the manufacturer of your crate and advise them what occurred. Perhaps they have some ideas too. That is really scary.
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Wow, that is scary.
Glad Loki is okay.

I prefer the metal ones because they are in the living room and I made nice tops for them so they could double as tall tables, but my two never tried escaping from theirs.






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Wow, that is scary.
Glad Loki is okay.

I prefer the metal ones because they are in the living room and I made nice tops for them so they could double as tall tables, but my two never tried escaping from theirs.






That actually looks pretty nice and seems very practical.
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That actually looks pretty nice and seems very practical.
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