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Old 09-19-2019, 11:21 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I know this is an old post but I had the same problem with Easy walk harness it was rubbing my dogs raw in their armpits where there isn't much hair so what I did was buy a fleece halter set for a horse's halter and I took the part that goes over the crown of the horse (behind the ears) and slid it over the belly part of the easy walk and it worked great and I can take it off and wash it when it gets dirty it wasn't really expensive I think I got it at Tractor supply.
That is a brilliant idea Luvmiboxers! Those fleece shipping halter covers can be found in both fleece and real sheepskin so that is a GREAT option. The crown piece is pretty long on most sets and could easily be cut to size.

I prefer to use a harness for walks and training rather than a collar too.

I have put a lot of effort (so much effort! Lol!) into teaching my dogs to walk at my side on a loose leash, so pulling is not a huge issue, however, while training them as pups, I greatly prefer using a harness rather than a collar while they are establishing a consistent position at my side.

I really dislike putting a lot of tension on their neck while they are in training and learning to give to pressure.

An equally important factor to me while training a dog to give to pressure is that I most likely am also working on building that dogs confidence at the same time, and building positive associations with the exact "things" that would prompt a dog to pull out of sheer curiosity or excitement before they have been trained to stay at my side. I don't want my dog building a negative association from pulling/corrections from the collar related to seeing other dogs, or seeing children, people, etc.

I love the harnesses that are similar to service dog vests, with a wide horizontal strap across the chest and a wide band on the barrel (behind the legs).

The vests I use have the bottom strap (that sits behind their legs) set further back, giving the delicate skin behind the front legs of boxers the freedom to move without getting rubbed.

Similar to what the person who started this thread described, my dogs RAN from nylon harnesses and they also ran from harnesses that had a snug fitting neck opening.

When using the harnesses that are similar to service dog vests, my dogs literally walk up and put their heads into them and willingly stand while I secure the harness.

My previous boxer (American bloodlines) had a beautiful but very short, thin coat for his entire 14 years with me. So I had to be VERY careful about any friction or rubs with him. I couldn't even use most collars on him; they would rub his hair off on his neck. The only collar he could wear that didn't rub off his fur was a rolled leather collar.

My current boxer (full European bloodlines) has a much thicker coat, so his skin is more protected, but is still sensitive.

For additional padding on my dog's harness, I sewed a "tube" that is padded for the bottom strap that completely covers the nylon. I purchased fabric that closely matches my dog's harness & then wrapped it around fleece fabric (thinking fleece dissipates heat well - sort of like a cooler for horses lol) and I sewed a long, padded tube to slip on the bottom strap of the harness. The harness I use came with a pad for the bottom strap, but it was smaller than what I created.
In the future, I will just use a crown piece from a fleece shipping halter set. I literally already have a set or two, but it never occurred to me to use that!

I attached a few photos below, of vests that are similar to what I have had good luck with as far as fitting deep chested dogs like our boxers.

The harness and the attached photos are by Slowton, but I have seen many different manufacturers that create a similar design ranging in price from $10.00 - $60.00. Photo credit to Slowton as well, for both photos.
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Old 09-19-2019, 01:13 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Thank you Equestrian! I used to be into horses too so that's what made me think of the halter set. I also pull the dogs legs forward after fastening the belly strap so no flesh is pinched under the fleece. I am interested in the type of harness you describe I am having a problem with my male pulling really bad he is very excitable he is mostly Euro does have the longer coat too I wanted to use the easy walk harness on him but for the life of me I can't get it to fit him right!!!!So I have been looking for something else. He has a very deep chest but as he is still growing and filling out he is not broad there yet. I would like to try the vest you mention. Also going back to the horse theme I bought some dog coats that work really well for my boxers as I like to walk in the mornings when its still pretty cold outside. I got some dog coats that are horse blanket style and they fit really well and don't slide around too much they are from Foggy Mountain Dog Coats they are a little pricey but I have used them for years now and I can wash them hang to dry and the nylon ones really keep the wind off. I heard this manufacturer is going to start making a special boxer coat here soon so I have been keeping an eye out for that boxers are hard to fit a coat to but like I said these work pretty well. My new boy hasn't had a coat on yet so that ought to be interesting this winter
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Old 10-04-2019, 07:25 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Well I already did my "harness bit." So now I'll do Boxer's and coats, kind of?? Struddell, did not like wind or rain?? She would try and dodge Rain Drops! But after a few minuets she'd give up on that!

And we would go out in 32 degrees or so but I'd not keep her out in that kinda cold for more that 20 minuets or so and she was fine.

And a side note, White Boxers are not allowed in Conformation because, they are not (I say) allowed to do the same jobs as other colored Boxers. IE K9 (stuff.) Well I suppose b but you know that depends on where you live??

Try recalling a "White Boxer" at night while it's snowing! And not really being sure if you have stopped said Boxer fro bouncing off your chest?? And it's pretty exciting!! I could hear her coming fast but I could not see her! But we'd work on that all summer so she would zoom by and then come back! I did not about the heel flip at the time.

But Search and Rescue dogs tend to be "All Weather Dogs??" No coats required all thought boots are nice (snow melt) in urban environments and stuff. But when I got my GSD, he luv'd bad weather!! We would go for walks in the worst freaking weather! Well below freezing, driving rain and blinding rain! And he did not care! It was kinda odd but pretty cool! We never had any loose dog encounters on those conditions!

I just thought it was worthy of noting.
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Old 10-06-2019, 04:11 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Totally hear you Chip with the white boxer in the snow and the wind and rain lol
Gypsy hates the wind especially at night. I always thought it was because she's deaf and can't see at night but now that you said that about stroudle, I'm not so sure now lol
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Totally hear you Chip with the white boxer in the snow and the wind and rain lol
Gypsy hates the wind especially at night. I always thought it was because she's deaf and can't see at night but now that you said that about stroudle, I'm not so sure now lol
Yeah the rain she gave up on dodging the rain drops. But the wind always seemed to bug her??

She did love the snow however, short coat not withstanding but 32 degrees or so and she was fine for about 30 minuets without "snow gear" ... she would not wear hat even then ... ticked me off but what are you gonna do??

But on a moonless night in driving snow?? She was "invisible!??" And I could hear her coming towards me fast!! But I did catch a break!As she just blew by me and then circled back and sat, by my side!

I did not know about the "Heel Flip" at the time??? :

I'm not sure of the rear end awareness part?? As I have not done that?? But the "Heel flip" part, I managed to train that using Larry Khron's work, I think he has another clip but I found this one first.

And I can a-test, that this can be taught to uh "normal dog's??" All of my other uh "Hand Picked Prima Donna Puppies." Made me "think" I was better than I was???

But with "Bella" my "Female" APBT/BOXER, it's been like "Welcome to the Real World" A- hole!

Sigh ... I'm still adjusting as she is not going anywhere! I gotta up my Game ... apparently??

But using a "Harness" to train a dog to walk properly, I'm a "Hard NO!" AS engineer's not withstanding ... Harness are made for a dog to "Pull!"

You don't pull a sled with a SSL or a Prong Collar on a dog ... just saying.

I only know of one "Serious Trainer" (that would be a trainer that can successfully, rehab aggressive dogs,) that much to my surprise uses a "Harness??" And that would be Gary Wilkes?? I was kinda stunned but that is what he uses?? I was kinda stunned, but that is what he uses??

But it's kinda like I tend to say ... "There is always that guy!" But in the world of serious "Dog Trainers" he would be your guy if you wanna use a "Harness" he would be "The Guy," the rest of us ... feel they are crap!

A properly fitted "Prong Collar" or a "SLL" is a much better option for uh ... everyone else.

And my "Struddell" anyone could walk her on leash! And at the time I trained her with a regular collar and a flat leash! But to be fair, she never got the chance to develop any bad on leash behavior!

If your dog has already developed a "Pulling Habit," you'll have to over come that first. But you can't keep doing the same thing over and over and expect a different result?? At some point it's time to try something different??
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I think bte2 recommended a leather harness on another thread, can't remember which one.

I use a nylon with padding at the contact points made by Ruffwear, couldn't be happier but unfortunately it seems this won't work for you.
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I think bte2 recommended a leather harness on another thread, can't remember which one.

I use a nylon with padding at the contact points made by Ruffwear, couldn't be happier but unfortunately it seems this won't work for you.
bte2 harness recommendation?? That would not be an "EZ Walk" type deal?? More in line with Ruffwear, harnesses ie not designed to "trick or force" a dog into "Walking Well on leash."

With a dog that has been properly trained to walk well on a loose leash. You can walk them with anything or nothing at all. The tool in use won't matter as the dog understands ... where he is supposed to be.
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