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Old 06-19-2019, 07:13 PM   #11 (permalink)
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If I wanted a dog that was about the same height as a boxer but with more bulk I would probably just get a Rottie.
I think Rotties have "changed" a whole lot since the late 90's??

I know Larry Khron Luv's Rotties, he used to use "Bruno" in his rehab work, but
Bruno passed a couple of years ago.

And he replaced him with a Mal. LOL and so it goes yet again GSD's and Mal's are used by lot's of trainers. But while Larry luv's the breed hmm much like me with GSD's he tends not to recommend them to most people. I think ... I saw them mentioned in the link I posted on High Rank Drive and why Mid Guard, does not use them. It's the same issue as the GSD's!

So pretty much what I said would apply. Structure in the home, is important. Get that right and they should be no issue. I grew around Rotties in the 90's cool dogs. But I always considered them kinda boring looking Boxers myself??

And that is about the extent of my knowledge on them. But I think the OP is just exploring options?? And he saw the Valley Bulldog and was wondering what the deal was?? I'll say they are a "cute dog!" I'd not anticipate a lot of issues???

On the other hand ... there are French Bulldogs, and those cute littel dogs can be ... serious A Holes!! We had one with a GSD owner in South America and she came to us with "People Issues" with her "Frenchie???" He tended to attack guest in the home?? And Cesar had his butt handed to him by a "Pet pig killing Frenchy on ear!! It got away from his and mauled his Lama or pig, I don't remember what it was he using as uh "Bait!" I saw the episode and my first thought was ... "He ought to have a leash on that Dog!!"

But hey, he's Cesar and he got his clock cleaned by that Frenchie, hmm maybe he should have taken my advise??
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I think Rotties have "changed" a whole lot since the late 90's??

I know Larry Khron Luv's Rotties, he used to use "Bruno" in his rehab work, but
Bruno passed a couple of years ago.

And he replaced him with a Mal. LOL and so it goes yet again GSD's and Mal's are used by lot's of trainers. But while Larry luv's the breed hmm much like me with GSD's he tends not to recommend them to most people. I think ... I saw them mentioned in the link I posted on High Rank Drive and why Mid Guard, does not use them. It's the same issue as the GSD's!

So pretty much what I said would apply. Structure in the home, is important. Get that right and they should be no issue. I grew around Rotties in the 90's cool dogs. But I always considered them kinda boring looking Boxers myself??

And that is about the extent of my knowledge on them. But I think the OP is just exploring options?? And he saw the Valley Bulldog and was wondering what the deal was?? I'll say they are a "cute dog!" I'd not anticipate a lot of issues???

On the other hand ... there are French Bulldogs, and those cute littel dogs can be ... serious A Holes!! We had one with a GSD owner in South America and she came to us with "People Issues" with her "Frenchie???" He tended to attack guest in the home?? And Cesar had his butt handed to him by a "Pet pig killing Frenchy on ear!! It got away from his and mauled his Lama or pig, I don't remember what it was he using as uh "Bait!" I saw the episode and my first thought was ... "He ought to have a leash on that Dog!!"

But hey, he's Cesar and he got his clock cleaned by that Frenchie, hmm maybe he should have taken my advise??

Yeah I also grew up with a couple close friends who have them, and my gf just rescued a 3 yr old female. I have nothing but love for Rotties. I'm sure they are out there, just like any breed, but I have yet to meet a Rottie who wasn't just awesome.
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Yeah I also grew up with a couple close friends who have them, and my gf just rescued a 3 yr old female. I have nothing but love for Rotties. I'm sure they are out there, just like any breed, but I have yet to meet a Rottie who wasn't just awesome.
Well there you got I've never met a "Bad One" either! But since we moved to NV in 2003 I have seen only one at Pet Parade last month.

Kinda tallish and largish, it struck me as more of a Dane built than a Rottie should be. And I will say ... it's a good thing that guy had a leash on him and quick reflexes!! He went after a little dog that came to close!!

Marilyn screamed when he growled and lunged! But I was watching, saw it coming and was .. well not surprised myself. But the guy was quick so no harm, no foul. But that crap ... is still not acceptable to me!

My Rocky who was both the worst of the worst (Pack Fighting A-Hole!) And the best of the best (saved my butt!) Would never had done that! But you know we never participated because I don't tend to trust other people and there dogs!!

Mostly ... I will conceded I take it to far, I suppose?? A show quality Boxer for me ... would be a waste of money. Cuz that would never happen (participating in a show.) With my dog around so many other dogs ... I'd have a serious panic attack!! A man has got to know his limitations!

Still ... I do good work with dogs! My Bella is "apparently" good with strangers, cats and other dogs?? An ability she showed, over night when she was lost for 24 hours!! I gotta update or a start a thread as I have a "Warning for Harness" users, with less than ... "spectacularly behaved dogs!"

Pet quality harnesses so not talking about "Ruff Ware" of "Julius K9 Harness" wearing dogs. Just your average hmm .... poorly behaved if off leash dogs.
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Well there you got I've never met a "Bad One" either! But since we moved to NV in 2003 I have seen only one at Pet Parade last month.

Kinda tallish and largish, it struck me as more of a Dane built than a Rottie should be. And I will say ... it's a good thing that guy had a leash on him and quick reflexes!! He went after a little dog that came to close!!

Marilyn screamed when he growled and lunged! But I was watching, saw it coming and was .. well not surprised myself. But the guy was quick so no harm, no foul. But that crap ... is still not acceptable to me!

My Rocky who was both the worst of the worst (Pack Fighting A-Hole!) And the best of the best (saved my butt!) Would never had done that! But you know we never participated because I don't tend to trust other people and there dogs!!

Mostly ... I will conceded I take it to far, I suppose?? A show quality Boxer for me ... would be a waste of money. Cuz that would never happen (participating in a show.) With my dog around so many other dogs ... I'd have a serious panic attack!! A man has got to know his limitations!

Still ... I do good work with dogs! My Bella is "apparently" good with strangers, cats and other dogs?? An ability she showed, over night when she was lost for 24 hours!! I gotta update or a start a thread as I have a "Warning for Harness" users, with less than ... "spectacularly behaved dogs!"

Pet quality harnesses so not talking about "Ruff Ware" of "Julius K9 Harness" wearing dogs. Just your average hmm .... poorly behaved if off leash dogs.
The rescue she got was probably the runt of the litter and might be why she ended up in a shelter. Little on the smaller side, between 85-90lbs, but just the nicest dog around adults, kids, other dogs. Only issue we found was she will resource guard only squeaky toys. Instead of dealing with it, I just got rid of the squeaky toys. She has no issue sharing tennis balls etc. I figure no point wasting time on the squeaky toys as the resource guarding doesn't spill into anything else.

Thought you had a thread on your new dog. lol
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The rescue she got was probably the runt of the litter and might be why she ended up in a shelter. Little on the smaller side, between 85-90lbs, but just the nicest dog around adults, kids, other dogs. Only issue we found was she will resource guard only squeaky toys. Instead of dealing with it, I just got rid of the squeaky toys. She has no issue sharing tennis balls etc. I figure no point wasting time on the squeaky toys as the resource guarding doesn't spill into anything else.

Thought you had a thread on your new dog. lol
Yeah sometimes it is easier and appropriate to just avoid an issue. Then it is to make a fuss over it, Good call! And yeah she sounds like what I am used to seeing in Rotties??

And I did start a thread but no pictures and no updates! https://www.boxerforums.com/general-...down-were.html

It's a much bigger change then I expected, still! Such a Hugh change from what I am used to in a dog?? And my standards were raised by my GSD (last day) and now I got a Girl Boxer/APBT and she seems to have "doubled down" on the pig headed and stubborn of "both Breeds!"

She goes "No Where" (now off leash) and that failed also. That will be the update. The cat thing was the first real challenge and that is more "Behavioral" than "Training," and that (with a couple of set backs with two out of tow truly A-hole cats) was no big deal!!

But recall ... still and off leash?? Yeah so far ... not a chance!! Sigh I suppose as well as Rocky/Stewie and my Struddell, I "expect more??" And it is not happening?? I have had success of course and for owners that expect than I do ... apparently, she is a great dog! And that is an Unexpected independent of me assessment!

But for me ... she is a disappointment! I was shooting fro another Struddell and that is ...not what I have. But my wife luv's her, as she is. And having lost her once for 24 hours and seeing how crushed my wife was ... my distance (half way thought of foster and re-home??) Is gone!!

Ticks me off but what are you gonna do?? But until I get her "fixed" to my satisfaction, there is "Not a chance of adding a second dog two our household! Which I did "tell me wife ... in a fashion, when sensing my ... disappointment, she found yet another Male this time, Boxerish dog??

That one had more of a Boxer face than Bella. But too tall and kinda Great Dane ish lean?? Not a look I or Breed I really care for, myself. I got dragged out to see him and did agree to a meet and greet.

But the dog did not live with cats and I have four! And already dealing with one dog and cat issue dog (successfully.)

But cats don't need more stress and I don't need the hassle! I can do one dog v cat, deal at a time but two at once?? Uh no ... I stuck to my own advise ie "have one well trained before adding another!" And said NO.

So we still have only one dog and it will be so for awhile ... apparently. Oh yeah and "Spooky" our tiniest cat, is quite thrilled with Bella!! On occasion I have to stop the two of them from messing around! Bella luv's to throw an arm over her and pin her down! And Spooky ... just lay's there like ... whatever?? They are an odd pair and I have to step in on occasion to stop them from going crazy playing around! I knew Spooky missed her dogs but the two of them can be a bit over the top and neither seems to know when it's time to quit?? Sigh what are you gonna do.
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Chip, I kind of got lost in your post and not sure of your point. As with any dog the owner must know or at least should know the breed and should be the person in charge. I personally like working line GSD. Mine was great with anyone and with kids too. He came from a good line and at that time I belong to the GSD club where I got good training on training. This dog was amazing. I think today people want a dog that has the look but in reality do not have the time to train and many lines have been messed up thru byb. A working lind dog of any breed is not really a good mach for your average family. I also had good rotties. The dogs reputations in my opinion have been ruined because of people who get one and think its all about the cute puppy stage and do not have structure in their homes.
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Matt. I love rotties. I have had 4. Everyone was very good around people another animals. I had some acreage when I had them so they got plenty of exercise. They became very popular for awhile and the back yards jumped in and ruined many which lead to their being considered a dangerous dog. My last one, a female we had when we moved to this subdivision. People were like afraid of her but she was so so good. If I were walking and someone was a bit anxious of her she would sit backwards to them like please pet me I'm turning my face away so you don't need to be scared. She was very good with kids, dogs, cats and farm animals. Also when I moved here another neighbor had one, same type of personality a male but he looked menacing. And a 3rd came with a woman who babies her animals and buys from byb. He was not a nice dog and I think would have been one that ruined their reputation had he not been a responsible owner. I think a lot of having any working breed in a family depends on the family and the bloodlines of the dog. GSD, Rotts, Mals are just not for the average family of "today". A lot of people just want a dog to cuddle it seems now adays and do not want train or have structure in their homes, hence why we have so many problems today. Having a dog takes work.
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Matt. I love hotties. I have had 4. Everyone was very good around people another animals. I had some acreage when I had them so they got plenty of exercise. They became very popular for awhile and the back yards jumped in and ruined many which lead to their being considered a dangerous dog. My last one, a female we had when we moved to this subdivision. People were like afraid of her but she was so so good. If I were walking and someone was a bit anxious of her she would sit backwards to them like please pet me I'm turning my face away so you don't need to be scared. She was very good with kids, dogs, cats and farm animals. Also when I moved here another neighbor had one, same type of personality a male but he looked menacing. And a 3rd came with a woman who babies her animals and buys from byb. He was not a nice dog and I think would have been one that ruined their reputation had he not been a responsible owner. I think a lot of having any working breed in a family depends on the family and the bloodlines of the dog. GSD, Rotts, Mals are just not for the average family of "today". A lot of people just want a dog to cuddle it seems now adays and do not want train or have structure in their homes, hence why we have so many problems today. Having a dog takes work.
Yeah, definitely agree with that. Most people get working breeds and want them to be couch potatoes. Could never really understand that. Between byb and lazy owners its sad how many working breeds really don't do anything now and are getting so diluted with bad genes. Really just GSD's and mals and certain retrievers that are still popular doing the working stuff.
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