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Old 02-15-2012, 05:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have just read this article, its an interesting read, and goes against what most trainers tell you about dogs. A lot of it makes sense to me. What do you think ? The Alpha Theory of Dogs a load of rubbish ??

I like this statement

"Our dogs don’t want to be “pack leaders.” I have yet to meet a dog who cares when I eat or when I go to bed. They care very much when THEY eat or go for a walk. But that’s a different thing. A leader would want to control my actions, not just the ones that serve their desires and wants. That’s just a clever scavenger trying to get their stuff (e.g., food, water, exercise, play, attention, etc.)"



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Old 02-15-2012, 06:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
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loved the article
thank you so much for sharing.
I have to be honest, i kinda followed Cesar's way for a while and it didn't work for me.
After treating my dog like a family member it became a completely different story
thank you
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No problem, I thought it was a good article as well.

I have read a lot of training books that constantly tell you not to let your dog go out the door first, let it watch you eat your food first etc etc to make it know that your the ALPHA, but to be honest, a lot of these alpha training methods, to me defeat the purpose of having a pet, and that is to care for love, play with, and basically be part of the family. To me, if I followed the ALPHA training methods to the letter, then my dog would be no more than a block of wood, that feed and take out for a walk.

Don't get me wrong, it is essential to let your dog know what behaviour is acceptable and what is not, but to me that does not mean, constantly making your dog feel that its the bottom of the pile. I prefer to train my dogs with positive reinforcement and try to make them a part of the family.

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I still don't understand the walking out 1st stuff cause I have to open the door and then let the dog go out because then I walk out and shut the door.

If I was the true Alpha, the dog would open the door for me I would walk out and the dog would then shut door.

I'm not sure how that would work, but what do I know.
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No dog wants to be a alpha....but every dog needs a leader to show them boundaries and directions.
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No dog wants to be a alpha....but every dog needs a leader to show them boundaries and directions.
I prefer a partnership with me having 51% of the voting stock etc.
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I prefer a partnership with me having 51% of the voting stock etc.
LOL..I am OK with that.. only post adolescence though. Puppyhood and teen years, i prefer a dictatorship
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Old 02-15-2012, 09:55 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Not to add that people in general have a huge misconception of their own dogs,like that lady I met in the middle of a park the other day shouting at me ''control your doooog!'' because Valant was slowly WALKING to them to greet

''Is it a male?'' ''Mydog is dominant!!!''

Yeah right.

Her dog was scared,I bet it barely ever meet another dog because she think it is ''dominant''.

PFF.

Valant showed what a calm assertive dominant dog is

Then her dog wagged tail,sniffed,and assumed a play submissive position.

Valant went on his mery way,prancing nub straight and high.
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I agree with what everyone is saying, but (there is always one lol) we own horses and breed them, there is always a pecking order and unless we are at the top of the pecking order they don't listen to us very well or respect us.
I don't go for all the stuff they talk about with being alpha dog, mine sleep on the bed with me etc..., but when I ask them to do something I do expect it done. I also make sure the oldest of the two gets fed first etc... in keeping that she is older and deserves more respect than the younger.
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