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Brooklyn said:
Within the last year she has sold boxers, French bulldogs, English bulldogs, Chihuahuas and Pugs.

Just wondering where you found out that info, I was looking for it, but couldn't find it??
 

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Mellow D said:
Brooklyn said:
Within the last year she has sold boxers, French bulldogs, English bulldogs, Chihuahuas and Pugs.

Just wondering where you found out that info, I was looking for it, but couldn't find it??
I'm a professional stalker. :lol:

Just google the phone number.
 

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Brooklyn said:
Mellow D said:
Brooklyn said:
Within the last year she has sold boxers, French bulldogs, English bulldogs, Chihuahuas and Pugs.

Just wondering where you found out that info, I was looking for it, but couldn't find it??
I'm a professional stalker. :lol:

Just google the phone number.
:ROTFLMAO: :ROTFLMAO:
This was my first thought too.
Totally normal, right??


I also google ex boyfriends every now and then. :whistle: :whistle:
 

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Hennesy said:
BYB!!!! I smell BYB!!!!

Anyone else smell the same thing?

Cuz I smell BYB!!!

Who else smells BYB? Anybody?

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Hennesy; you crack me up!!
Hahaha!!!! I do hope you read it really really quickly!!! It's funnier that way!!! :ROTFLMAO: :ROTFLMAO: :ROTFLMAO:
 

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Hennesy said:
samsonsaunt said:
Hennesy said:
BYB!!!! I smell BYB!!!!

Anyone else smell the same thing?

Cuz I smell BYB!!!

Who else smells BYB? Anybody?

:cry_baby: :cry:
Hennesy; you crack me up!!
Hahaha!!!! I do hope you read it really really quickly!!! It's funnier that way!!! :ROTFLMAO: :ROTFLMAO: :ROTFLMAO:
LOL, I did originally read it fast....it was damn funny.
 

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samsonsaunt said:
Hennesy said:
BYB!!!! I smell BYB!!!!

Anyone else smell the same thing?

Cuz I smell BYB!!!

Who else smells BYB? Anybody?

:cry_baby: :cry:
Hennesy; you crack me up!!
Oh no... don't tell her that... she will shower you with emoticons... :lol:
 

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To all of those that have the "BYB" gossip itch ... don't judge someone before you know them.
I bought a home that had 33 dogs that came with it .... Chi's, Papillons, shitzu's & Pugs.
They were housed with one male to several females so yes, there were lots of pregnant ones. It has taken quite a while to place them but I did manage to & most were fixed too (at my expense) before they left or went on a spay/nueter contract. You can contact the Thurston County Humane Society to verify ... they helped me!
The English & French Bulldogs are mine and they can be seen on my website, the Frenchies (I have 2) haven't been added yet as I am still working on the site. The place we bought used to be Ma and Pas place for you guys that like to stalk & gossip.
I have worked very hard for what I have and I have beautiful, healthy dogs.
They weren't free and they weren't cheap ! I have some of the best bloodlines and healthiest around and I am proud of it.
Sorry if some of you have nothing better to do then judge people that you do not know.
I am a good person and my dogs are very well taken care of, happy and healthy, if you question this just come on by, my doors are open, then judge me.
My vet is South Bay vet hospital (phone number removed by mod) I use Michelle Shoemaker, feel free to call them if you have questions or are concerned that I might be a BYB !! I can assure you that you will find out otherwise.

Sami
 

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I traded a puppy of mine for Ti-amo from Serena Young of Sadoren Boxers of Canada after we spoke for many hours on the phone, I had no reason to believe she would not get me the papers.
She told me that Ti-amo was due in heat at anytime and that she was fine with her being bred to darri .... no worries on the paperwork. Yes, the pups can be registered if I get the papers from her. I have contacted CKC & will be filing a complaint with them over this. I will be sending in the bill of sale & all of the emails between her & I (which I kept).
I posted the add for the pups to get them into good homes I had to refund a few people and take their pups back because they wanted papers.
I am not happy about this situation, I got Ti-amo to bring in fresh bloodlines & to hopefully get a beautiful male from her & Darri. I agreed to bred her only once & have her spayed. Serena bred her twice & kept 2 pups.
I have raised this litter the same as my other pups, they get they besy Holistic food, excellent vet care, shots, worming and I am still offering a health guarantee with them ! They leave with a spay/neuter contract and not even a pedigree!
It is not fair to other breeders for me to advertise these pups as European pups (which I did NOT) and ask $800.00 for them with out papers!
If I were a BYB as some of you claim then yes, I would be asking a lot more & advertising their great bloodlines as well! I know I could get more but is it fair to the other breeders ... absolutly NOT!
There is a long story about this deal with Serena but I will not bore everyone here. Serena did get a pup from me and received her papers before I realized what she was doing. I only found out that she was a scammer when I read a posting on Kijiji, until then I was still leaving her voice mails hoping she would call me back. Last time I spoke with her, which was just a few weeks ago .... all was well & she told me that she was just about to pay her dues to the CKC and would then transfer Ti-amo.
I got scammed ... I a not proud of it but it is what it is.
I do not deserve the BS that is going on here so I hope this clears up some gossip!

Sami
Holland Boxers.com
 

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Sami,
I'm glad you took the time to clarify for us what you were all about. I wasn't one of the people who posted about the possibility of you being a BYB, but I understand where they were coming from. I don't think they meant to be malicious, they were just speculating. The combination of facts that were dug up pointed to BYB; there are far far too many BYBs... and they often have multiple types of dogs, no paperwork but boast champion bloodlines, sell for too good to be true prices...
you are clearly an exception, and I admire what you have done and continue to do. I think I can safely speak for everyone when I say I'm sorry the speculation that occurred put you in a bad light, but again, please don't take it personally or as an insult to you or your dogs. I'm sure all of those who called BYB will have changed their minds as soon as they read your posts.
 

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Oh wow :eek: sorry sami for what happened to you...is there anything you can do to fix it, like get your puppy back from her or something?
 

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Wow, I bought a house and it came with a pool and an acre of land - what kind of house comes with 33 dogs??? :whistle:

Sami - Yes, while I agree that is is not fair to judge anything until you have met the breeder and have talked to someone before you can label someone a certain type of breeder, I read your posts and have not heard the mention of any of your other dogs, your breeding ethics, what you test for genetically, any specifics with regards to this litter health wise (as you mention in your ad that they are from health tested parents), what and how you are going to offer them as pet only if you have no reg papers( is there a signed contact that you are enforcing) etc. Why are there two different prices in you 400-500 range? What is the longevity of the lines?

While I am trying to understand your explanations with regards to the situation you inherited, I won't label you :up: , but for someone who is trying to defend themselves as a ligit, reputable and responsible breeder, I think you need to talk more about your ethics, your goals, what makes your dogs breedable (health, temperment, and confirmation), why you have some many dogs, as many breeder focus on a select few quality, and not quantitiy -......things like that are the key reasons that separate some breeders from others in regards to reputable and responsible. ;)
 

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I'm just going to go on record as saying this is the most judgmental forum I have ever been on. I thought it was a nice gesture putting that add up here b/c someone might be able to get a high quality pet at a reasonable price. But immediately this breeder got attacked. I have seen this time and time again all over this forum. I have not recommended this site to my other boxer friends for this reason. I feel bad for this woman. I am embarrassed by others behaviors. Probably the same people that were bullies in school. :no: :no: :no:
 

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Eurobox,

I think you may have opened up a can of worms with that comment :mrgreen: Things are so debateable you know, it starts with the verbiage “high quality pet” who knows, maybe they are maybe they are not.
 

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HannaBanana - I look at the people making the negative comments, and I wonder "Did your dog come from FULLY health tested parents?" Kind of like the biblical saying (and I am in no way religious) "Let He Who Is Without Sin Cast The First Stone". This woman might have a nice kennel, and have health tested dogs, and that was her welcome to the forums. She had to come on here to defend herself. How awful.

Saying something like "I'm not sure about the kennel, I will have to do some research" is way different than "BYB, I smell BYB".
 

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What Heather said. ;) As well, many forums would have deleted your post from the start, as they do not allow advertising puppies for sale, especially when the breeder is not a member of the forum and their health testing information (etc) is not listed on their website.
 

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What Heather said. ;) As well, many forums would have deleted your post from the start, as they do not allow advertising puppies for sale, especially when the breeder is not a member of the forum and their health testing information (etc) is not listed on their website.
I would be happy if they deleted it. I am embarrassed by others behaviors and comments.
 

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this is an issue we have had here time and time again.

to Sami.... im sorry your welcome to the forum was so .... upsetting.
How in the world did you buy a house with 33 dogs attached lol..... i love my pups but I couldnt take on 33 dogs... think i would have let that house go to the next highest bidder lol.... my house however, did come with three outside cats so I know its possible especially if you live in a rural area. Good luck getting the paper work on your bitch straightened out and WELCOME TO THE FORUM :clap2: we are always glad to have new opinions and new blood.. so to speak lol. :lol:
 

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this is an issue we have had here time and time again.

to Sami.... im sorry your welcome to the forum was so .... upsetting.
How in the world did you buy a house with 33 dogs attached lol..... i love my pups but I couldnt take on 33 dogs... think i would have let that house go to the next highest bidder lol.... my house however, did come with three outside cats so I know its possible especially if you live in a rural area. Good luck getting the paper work on your bitch straightened out and WELCOME TO THE FORUM :clap2: we are always glad to have new opinions and new blood.. so to speak lol. :lol:
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Welcome Sami!!!
 
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