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All the Boxer boys I have had have been very loving and loyal to me and very protective of me so can’t really say I prefer one over the other.
2 female Boxers in the same house?
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yep a male boxer is always more loving to his owner. Girls are too but the boys only have eyes for you, that what I meant when I say females re more independent. They love you but they are more into themselves, then into their owners. (kinda hard to say what I mean) . Chip I have two standard poodles, one is a rescue I took in a year ago. He is light weight compared to my first who is heavy boned. In fact when he runs or walks for that matter he is cat light, light on his feet. The other one is not and you can hear him coming, lol I still have the cairn terrier, house she is 11 now and diabetic on top of her IBS. and my one daughter, who lives home has a shih tzu. We always had those also for years. This one will turn 3 mid year. I have two cats. One is I think 12 now and the other maybe 10. The older one my daughter brought home at about 2-3 weeks old and we bottle fed and hand fed. He was supposed to go to the rescue, who as it turned out was always full. Yeah so..the other we picked up at the shelter, why I ask myself but that is a long story. Though the cats have scratching posts and have their nails periodically clipped they have totally destroyed my leather furniture and all carpet on stairway. My house is a mess and now I really need to replace the carpet and the furniture but can't because of them. One day hopefully I will be able too, if I can by then with these crazy prices on everything. Just doesn't make sense to do it now as in 6 months I will have a torn up home again. LOL Yes they are inside cats, have never been outside. My friend now has 8 cats, she had 10 lost two as they were over 20. It was her mom, (96 yrs old) overtime they find a stray and it usually has kittens they catch them they end up neutered and inside the house I think people know that is where you dump your unwanted cats. (kidding of course). They were all feral at one time.
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It is really hard to try and help people in real life? People that ask for help online tend to realize, that they have a "problem?" And they are searching for help.
Working with, dog's is a lot more simple than it is working with people? Generally speaking "JQP," has no idea that "sometimes," combining dog one with dog two? Can blow up in there face? One day "Out of the Blue??" All He$$, Breaks lose?? The owners are basically shell shocked? They have no idea what is going on, or how they can fix it?
They are overwhelmed, they have no idea what is going on? And how they can make it better? And, depending on the level of skill of the individual? Dog's go to the Vet and owner's go to the ER! If your half way "good enough?" And it get's really bad ... well your dog's are fine and you go to the ER! Now ... I count that as a win myself. But hey that is me. And when I had my "issues," with "Rocky," my first WL GSD and Gunther my "Band Dawg," Rocky would always launch and attack on Gunther .... seemingly out of the blue??
My dog's were always fine, ...but I landed in the ER; for stitches ... (that was Rocky and a serious mistake on part!) But I knew "something was seriously wrong here and I looked for solutions?
Well there is more to that story but my point is ... "That owner (although, I do not know them?) was over whelmed? She had no idea what what was going on or how to fix it? You were basically, telling her to separate the dog's, ie Crate and Rotate, which would be the answer. But she was in shock, and her dog's were hurt and most likely, if she "tried," to separate them ... so was she? So what ever you were telling her ... she could not comprehend it?
Some people that struggle with dog issues? That they have never seen or heard of? Don't belive that there is anything that can be done? So there is that.
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Our personal experience with two female dogs has been mixed. We had a boxer who was around 9 years old when we brought a French Bulldog home. Those two got along wonderfully but that is because our boxer put the frenchie in her place immediately. She also was the most well behaved dog we have ever owned. She passed when our frenchie was 3 years old. We waited over a year and brought home another female boxer puppy. Initially things were wonderful. They cuddled and loved on one another all the time. They played well. Then gradually growling started happening which ended in all out fight to the death matches on multiple occasions. Our Frenchie can do some damage, although she did come out with the worst damage. We spent months keeping them completely separated. They couldn’t be in the same room. Even walking past each other was enough to set them off. My husband was able to start bringing them in the same room separated (the boxer on the dog bed, the frenchie in a lap). Eventually we were able to get them to where they can lay next to each other chewing a bone if we’re in the room. We remove the bones when we aren’t there. Up until this past week we had gone a few months without an incident. Then suddenly our boxer started growling at the Frenchie while on the couch with me while I was on the phone. I think it was over a bone. It was a great reminder that while they tolerate each other, we can never trust them alone with bones OR in the backyard. I can not even walk them together because if another dog gets them riled up, they will turn on each other. What I think started it is a nice older gentleman who walked his dog by every day and let the little dog “say hi” when our dogs were in the backyard. He obviously did not know enough about dogs to know he was causing ours to red line. I only caught him with the dog by the fence once and he was gone by the time I got out there. But he walked by frequently so I know it happened more than once. This trigger from someone just walking by caused their first scuffle and it went south from there.
All that to say… don’t do it if you have the choice! We spent many days crying, trying to decide whether to rehome the boxer because she hadn’t been with us as long as the frenchie. We are stubborn and I am a stay at home mom so I was able to make it work, but it caused SO much emotional stress, marital stress, and our poor kids were afraid our dogs would kill each other.
We previously had 3 females all together, one who was extreme alpha (she marked while lifting her hind leg), the original boxer in this post (so well behaved), and an adopted puppy mill boxer with no manners. The two former attacked the no manners one twice in 5 years and the well behaved one attacked her once horribly during a daytime thunderstorm when I was gone at work. She pulled through and they were fine after but we kenneled her during the day regardless to ensure it didn’t happen again. All the fights were years apart, and we decided would never have two large females again. But apparently small girls can be typical females as well. 😂
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Well welcome aboard and thank you for sharing. And I am so sorry you had and your family had so much trauma to endure!
Watching, your dogs trying to kill each other ... is hard enough on adults! I can't imagine what seeing that would be like to kids??? And yes, "don't do it if you have a choice!" Are truly wise words!
I know what it is like to live in a "War Zone," and feel like your living with a ticking time bomb! It's pretty stressful ... that was my (first Working Line GSD) and my Band Dogge! And the GSD .... always started it! The dogs were fine and I went to the ER for stitches! And funny enough we had a GSD member that had no issues with her GSD. She was always, telling us about her Frencnhie and who it had "went after lately??"
They look sooo cute, that you would never think they could be an issue?? She never really discussed any GSD "issues?" Which was kinda rare but her Frencnhie, was a real A-Hole! He would go after "People!" Apparently all the freaking time!
So yeah ... But back on point, two females, yeah I know. And I alos know that if there were any "issues," it would mean Crate and Rotate if I wanted to keep both dog's, in my home? And I am not really willing to do that, by making actitive choice to go out of way to bring a "Boxer Girl Home." But hey if I "happen to rescue," one on may own .... that's a bit diffrent! But in NV ... "Boxers are kinda rare?" Crap happens and Boxers are here, I know and have a few. But they are not very common.
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Training/reaching people is a lot harder than just "training a dog." Actual Dog Trainers, know as much about people as they do dog's.
Owners that find themselves in the midst of "combating dogs?" Generally speaking they are "Shell Shocked," and have no idea ... what is going on and how to stop it??
And yes a female Chow and a female Pit Bull??? Would be a match made in HE$$! No one in there right mind would even try that? And at the first sign, that this is not working?? "Crate and Rotate," ... and I'll figure it out? But JQP ... does not what Crate and Rotate is? There dog's are crazy and getting hurt and if they step in the middle, they get hurt to! They don't know "what is going on, what to do about it and they are in shock??"
Helping someone ... under those conditions ... would be really hard. If people don't reach out for help? You can't help them! People struggling with serious dog issues? Tend to try what they can, but tend to not believe ... there is nothing and no one that can help??
I have had two 'fails," with owners in the real world. A seriously dog aggressive Pit and a Mid Night Walker of a Shar Pei. I gave them my number and told them stuff ... but I never heard from them sooo ...
But on the other hand on Germansheaprdforum ... several years ago? I got a pm from a friend on GSDForum, early in the morning asking for my help on a GSD in serious trouble! The issue was a "Female WL GSD," that was overly protective! The owner was also a Female and the issue was ... the dog would not allow .... anyone near here ... at all, period end of story??
The other interesting part is that my friend that pm'd me was MAWL, (Mine Are Working Line) and she was (apparently a K9 Trainer,) and she has Five GSD's! Four WL and one West German Show line!
LOL ... "why pm me??" By then my issues and well success, with my One WL GSD, were well known? And I don't do PPD, Mondo Ring,or IPO or K9's! I only do "pet's and well make them safe to be around people .... and even at that "not necessarily people friendly, but at least ... people safe! Rocky did not toddlers but he would not attack them either! (Uh that was proven in a "Crap Happens situation, another story.)
Anyway, the kicker was ... the Dog was due to be put down that day at 4:30! Are you kidding me?? Anyway whatever I'll do what I do ... it was a long thread and of course "Place and Sit on the Down, and Walks with rules, and "who Pet's my puppy or dog, uh ... no one for the most part on walks.
We heard nothing from her for month's? And then one day she comes back and post a picture ... Ok she left out a lot of detail's! She did not have just the one Dog the WL GSD (That was the issue) but four dog's? And not just dog's ... but also a Chi and not one but two Cane Corso's! She posted a pic with all the dog's in place and chewing on bones! I was freaking stunned!
The CC's did not give her any grief but the WL GSD, did ... uh wow! But just saying ... you can only help people ... if they want help and are willing to reach out!
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"They love you but they are more into themselves, then into their owners. " LOL, well I would agree with that!
I read and have a lot of Books on Boxers and what I remember from one of them about Male vs Female's, the author just said ... "The girl's are different??" Well what the heck does that mean?? So I got a girl and LOL, well you are right!
The girl's are just "different?" And I just, have an affinity to that difference. But I have never had a "Boxer Male?" But a dirct one to one ... I have had is a Boxer/Pit Male vs a Boxer/Pit Female. And well if you want a disciplined, dependable easy to train reliable dog ... uh get a male! My Bella Boxer/Pit compared to my Stewie Boxer/Pit, has been a real piece of work ... sigh.
My male Boxer/Pit was just "Brilliant and Easy to Train and reliable! "!My current, girl Boxer/Pit, Bella... yeah not so much! And it's not just "training her to do stuff." She is my first "Heel Flip Dog!" Which I was told could be pretty hard doing it the "Larry Khon, way. But hey I did it.
But seriously ... if you don't work on every thing she should know ... week to week? She does not care! She will actually still jump on me ... huh barely! Just the slightest contact and to quick for a correction! But she "knows she is not suppose to do that! Sigh still .. "because of where I live," ... under strictly controlled conditions ... she gets to run off leash!
But yeah unlike my "Bunny Chasing Stru," who got to chase Bunnies in the open desert brush! Bella stays in a huge parking lot and gets to run free! It's a huge "distraction free area!"
Anyway .. I knew about the New Poodle. But I did not know you already had one? So now two Poodles a shih tzu and a carin tierrior??? That is a lot of fur to take care of!
And cats and bringing them in sigh. I personally, think that cat's differ by intelligence depending on where you live? I started the cat thing in Ca. We brought 10 of them to NV. We lived in an apartment in Ca. And none of our Ca Cat's ever potted on the carpet or destroyed the furniture!
We moved to NV, bought a house and I got more semi feral cats and brought them in. Bringing them in and integrating with the pack was a process. They new cats, lived for years in the garage. They had comfy chairs a heater and litter Boxes ... and I would just go out there and feed them clean the litter boxes and leave them alone for year's.
And eventually I brought them in. And that is when "Someone out of the now 14 cat's decided to destroy our carpet? They never went after the furniture but someone out of the new "Pack," was a "PIA!" And it was some peeing on the carpet and someone peeing uh next to the litter Box! But if you have 14 or more cats ... you can't tell who is doing what??
Well after 12 years and down to two cat's ... I now who! It's Stumpy ... sometimes I will go in the litter box and sometime aww, close enough. Freaking tick's me off! But after a decade or more ... what are you going to do??
It's on linoleum and I clean it up so he was not the one that destroyed the carpet. But Marilyn is pretty much done with cat's! So bring new cat's home would be pretty tough.
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When I litter trained my kittens I used “cat attract” kitten cat litter worked beautifully they never had a mishap. My Moms senior cat started having issues she put regular cat attract in the box she too was helped so maybe you should try that. I don’t have any cats anymore while I do miss them a lot and they lived a long time I don’t miss the cat litter mess! As far as the male/female debate I don’t really have a preference I really think it’s the time and training you put into them. I’ve had some super great dogs either way.
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It's on linoleum and I clean it up so he was not the one that destroyed the carpet. But Marilyn is pretty much done with cat's! So bring new cat's home would be pretty tough.
When they get really old that happens more frequently, My friend I told her to put a dog crate plastic thing under the litter box or to use puppy pads around it. Makes clean up a lot easier and the smell doesn't get into your carpet or flooring.
When they get really old that happens more frequently, My friend I told her to put a dog crate plastic thing under the litter box or to use puppy pads around it. Makes clean up a lot easier and the smell doesn't get into your carpet or flooring.
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OH, I get that. But that does not mean, that there is not a "decerable," difference between the boys and girls? Just speaking for myself, if it did not matter ... I'd already have "another Boxer." But "whatever the difference is?" Is why getting a male and not a girl (Boxer)? Is a big deal for me.
Boxers do better by "ME." Than do WL GSD's? I luv both breed's but even still, I "don't recommend a "WL GSD," to uh no one I know! But for first time "Boxer Owner?" I cut a bit of slack. But my recommendation would be to get a "Boy!" There is just gonna be a "lot less silliness," to be dealt with? But I only know the, American Line Boxer's. I know nothing of the Euro/German Boxer's?
Those guy's, the German Boxer's still do the LE K9, thing to this day ... in the Midwest. So are German Boxer's ... Working Line GSD's? In a Boxer suit??? I have no idea??
But I believe "Joe pound," on here. Has a "Female PPD?" If that is the case his "input," would be pretty interesting.
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Yep with training either male or female is great. If your going to have two, female/male or male/male (neutered). In most breeds females are more independent, (just like us women). The do cuddle but on their terms. Male dogs just like their people, want to be taken care of, and want to cuddle.. Sound familiar? LOL
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