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So late last night while we were on our walk, another dog escaped out the front door of it's house, ran straight across the road and attacked my Boxer Princess. It managed to get one bite on her before my protective instincts kicked in and I put my foot up it's a$$. I know it's the owners fault and not the dog, however, I lashed out instantly to protect mine.

What are your thoughts on this?


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I would have and have done the same thing! That makes me so angry! I feel there is no excuse to let your dog escape your property. I walk a lot and have had dogs come after us before fortunately the owner has come out of the house or I have managed to scare the dog off. I had a really bad scare once walking in a national park there was a home that backed up to the park property and they had some big nasty looking dogs I have no idea what they were except they were nearly hairless and big and ugly they made this terrible screaming sound I still have no idea what they were, they had one of those electric buried in the ground fences and they came hard charging right to the line it frightened me so bad because I didn't expect it fortunately they stopped at the line but I wonder how people can be so confident in such a fence? A little zap of the collar isn't going to stop most determined dogs. I am having some difficulty now where I walk with a woman who can't /won't control her golden retrievers who are dog aggressive I can see she and I are going to have it out! I also take my dogs to a local dog park to let them run, I go early when no one is there, a man showed up with a GSD so I pulled my dogs up to the side of the path well away from him and his dog immediately started barking hair up tail up very aggressive man starts thumping the dog saying leave it so I finally get my dogs to my car and start giving them water and he keeps walking back in forth in front of my car yelling at his dog leave it! I was like Dude can you please give me a break! Some people are SO clueless! It makes it hard to relax and enjoy being out with your dog! Was your Princess hurt? I hope not.
 

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I would have and have done the same thing! That makes me so angry! I feel there is no excuse to let your dog escape your property. I walk a lot and have had dogs come after us before fortunately the owner has come out of the house or I have managed to scare the dog off. I had a really bad scare once walking in a national park there was a home that backed up to the park property and they had some big nasty looking dogs I have no idea what they were except they were nearly hairless and big and ugly they made this terrible screaming sound I still have no idea what they were, they had one of those electric buried in the ground fences and they came hard charging right to the line it frightened me so bad because I didn't expect it fortunately they stopped at the line but I wonder how people can be so confident in such a fence? A little zap of the collar isn't going to stop most determined dogs. I am having some difficulty now where I walk with a woman who can't /won't control her golden retrievers who are dog aggressive I can see she and I are going to have it out! I also take my dogs to a local dog park to let them run, I go early when no one is there, a man showed up with a GSD so I pulled my dogs up to the side of the path well away from him and his dog immediately started barking hair up tail up very aggressive man starts thumping the dog saying leave it so I finally get my dogs to my car and start giving them water and he keeps walking back in forth in front of my car yelling at his dog leave it! I was like Dude can you please give me a break! Some people are SO clueless! It makes it hard to relax and enjoy being out with your dog! Was your Princess hurt? I hope not.
Thanks for replying. She has slight physical damage - I'm just hoping this doesn't change her temperament. She is great with all dogs.

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I fully understand. One must protect their dog and themselves. And then you have those who say Oh don't worry he is friendly! I think I despise those the most. I don't want someones dog in my space, end of story. When I got my last dog (standard poodle) I got him specifically so I could take long walks and feel comfortable with him at my side. Well I no longer walk because so many of my neighbors saw nothing wrong with allowing their "friendly" dogs out front on their lawns unleashed. My dog no longer likes any dog running up to him, it scared him and thats it. I'm old and need to be careful of falling so I just haven't risked fate anymore. I have been desenitiing him and that has helped but I no longer feel comfortable to walk in an area where someones dog will run after me. I don't want to hear their apologies anymore I just want them to be responsible enough to not allow this to happen. I have owned dogs for well over 40 years and not once has my dog escaped and gone into someone else space.
 

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I look at my job to protect my dog and I would have done the same. Whatever it takes to get the other dog away I would have done. A swift kick to the ass is a decent outcome for the attacking dog. I'm glad that worked and your girl didn't get injured.
 

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I'm glad your baby is physically OK. It's a reasonable fear that she may be weary of other new dogs from the encounter. I'd say that depends on so many things that you'll have to wait and see.

We had an unusual situation with a female boxer we tried to adopt a few years ago. The relevant part is that she attacked our super timid big boxer, Tundra, 3 times. Luckily she never drew blood and luckily he didn't fight back (he was almost twice her size and a power chewer). She would grab his neck suddenly and not let go.

I don't think you really know what your base instincts are in a situation like your dog being attacked until it happens. I could be wrong, but I think people respond differently.
I think what you did was a reasonable response, and what a lot of people would do.

When Tundra was attacked, my immediate response was to get her off him whatever that took. You don't always have time to think about the other dog hurting you or you being in the middle of a dog fight.

Tundra is still OK around other dogs and people. He's always been a little reserved, but that's his personality.

Other owners should be more responsible- for both their dogs protection and everyone else.
Chip will likely respond and he carries a stick and has other experience that may help you.

I think you did the right thing in that situation.
 

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Well to be clear, you did fine and did nothing wrong?? Most of us consider it "our job" to "Protect Our Dog's." You did fine with what you had, which sounds like uh "nothing aside from "determination!"

Now that can work, as it is how I deterred "attempted" assaults for year's. But it's not a lot of fun and I wanted to come up with a solution that "anyone" can use! And I did, and it's been "Dog Tested" (Live fire Drill as it were.) and "Dog Approved" by Rocky (over Size Working Line GSD) aka stray dog magnet?? We had 15 such encounters under or belts before he passed.

And he only got nipped once ... when I foolishly lead us into a "Perfect Storm!" Rocky was fine ... I was seriously ticked off!!! But I digress.

Most likely you faced the "old ambush predator ploy!" And I'm gonna guess you were on foot and close to home??? OH, oh gotta go be back later. Glad your dog is OK, sorry this happened.
 

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Well to be clear, you did fine and did nothing wrong?? Most of us consider it "our job" to "Protect Our Dog's." You did fine with what you had, which sounds like uh "nothing aside from "determination!"

Now that can work, as it is how I deterred "attempted" assaults for year's. But it's not a lot of fun and I wanted to come up with a solution that "anyone" can use! And I did, and it's been "Dog Tested" (Live fire Drill as it were.) and "Dog Approved" by Rocky (over Size Working Line GSD) aka stray dog magnet?? We had 15 such encounters under or belts before he passed.

And he only got nipped once ... when I foolishly lead us into a "Perfect Storm!" Rocky was fine ... I was seriously ticked off!!! But I digress.

Most likely you faced the "old ambush predator ploy!" And I'm gonna guess you were on foot and close to home??? OH, oh gotta go be back later. Glad your dog is OK, sorry this happened.
Thanks Chip, and yes I was near home when this happened.

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I'm glad your baby is physically OK. It's a reasonable fear that she may be weary of other new dogs from the encounter. I'd say that depends on so many things that you'll have to wait and see.



We had an unusual situation with a female boxer we tried to adopt a few years ago. The relevant part is that she attacked our super timid big boxer, Tundra, 3 times. Luckily she never drew blood and luckily he didn't fight back (he was almost twice her size and a power chewer). She would grab his neck suddenly and not let go.



I don't think you really know what your base instincts are in a situation like your dog being attacked until it happens. I could be wrong, but I think people respond differently.

I think what you did was a reasonable response, and what a lot of people would do.



When Tundra was attacked, my immediate response was to get her off him whatever that took. You don't always have time to think about the other dog hurting you or you being in the middle of a dog fight.



Tundra is still OK around other dogs and people. He's always been a little reserved, but that's his personality.



Other owners should be more responsible- for both their dogs protection and everyone else.

Chip will likely respond and he carries a stick and has other experience that may help you.



I think you did the right thing in that situation.
Thanks Cyn. I'm hoping as it was all over in a few seconds it won't leave a permanent change.

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I look at my job to protect my dog and I would have done the same. Whatever it takes to get the other dog away I would have done. A swift kick to the ass is a decent outcome for the attacking dog. I'm glad that worked and your girl didn't get injured.
Thanks Matt.

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I fully understand. One must protect their dog and themselves. And then you have those who say Oh don't worry he is friendly! I think I despise those the most. I don't want someones dog in my space, end of story. When I got my last dog (standard poodle) I got him specifically so I could take long walks and feel comfortable with him at my side. Well I no longer walk because so many of my neighbors saw nothing wrong with allowing their "friendly" dogs out front on their lawns unleashed. My dog no longer likes any dog running up to him, it scared him and thats it. I'm old and need to be careful of falling so I just haven't risked fate anymore. I have been desenitiing him and that has helped but I no longer feel comfortable to walk in an area where someones dog will run after me. I don't want to hear their apologies anymore I just want them to be responsible enough to not allow this to happen. I have owned dogs for well over 40 years and not once has my dog escaped and gone into someone else space.
Thanks for sharing this Lindar.

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I think that would be my big concern for her right now is that when another dog approaches she will think she is going to be attacked and go on the defensive. I hope this is not the case but one thing I have found out with Boxers is they don't forget anything! I hope she will get past this. I have had dogs for a very long time too and not one of my dogs has ever escaped my property or control I don't know why people have such a hard time with this.
 

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Thanks for replying. She has slight physical damage - I'm just hoping this doesn't change her temperament. She is great with all dogs.

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Your dog "Knowing" you have there back ... goes a long way! IE, they are not in "this" mess alone! If a dog has "Solid Nerves" GSD terminology. :)

IE base "temperament" be it shy timid or Dominant or Balanced, one incident and there demeanor should not change?? But if the dog see the same situation "unfolding again??" One had best be "Right Quick" to put and end to it! Or one will be engaged with two dogs and not one!

Preventing engagement ... is much better than "Breaking Up a Dog Fight!" Been there done that and "No Stitches!" And with the use of my "Walking Stick" it was no harm no foul! Neither dog got touched! No Harm, No foul, I never touched the offending dog (The walking stick is used to "Block The Charging Dog!" You should have the look on "Mad Labs" face ... it was freaking "EPIC!" :crazyeye:

At any rate since "no one or dog" got harmed ... I had no need to "apologize," as the owner was present as her dog charged and she was ... hot on his heels!
She put her self in harms, way to retrieve her dog!

As I was "out of position" ie I was not in front of Rocky, as is usual, so Rocky behind me "Off leash I think" saw the "Threat First!" And he was "Locked and Loaded!" Daddy messed up once, and if Dad can't stop this freaking A-Hole Dog ... I will!!

And that is where I give that Lady big props for having uh "Brass Ball's." I knew that home and that dog and I saw sighs, lot's of cars so they had company over and I am sure that is how the dog got out??

I had stopped the charge but the dog was "Danger Close!" And the owner put herself at "High Risk" to retrieve her dog! She was right in the face of 113 lbs of snarling, snapping Over Size (Pissed off) WL GSD and the only thing between her and serious freaking injuries were the words (STAY/STAY/STAY!!)

And I usually (under these circumstances pre getting nipped) only had to say once ... if at all?? So I was not confident this incident was over, but it was, Rocky held his stay. The lady apologized and I said "No Problem." And we went on our way. :)

He was a magnificent (accidental dog, despite our early issues) I miss him greatly. But I learned a lot from him and unless things have changed .. you can only find bits and pieces, of useful info on "anti stray dog counter measures??" And God Help, anyone that "thinks" the Positive Only crowd ... would have a clue?? Victoria Stilwell comes to mind.

And since, the "Stray Dog Magnet," thing seemed to be a GSD issue?? I started my own thread and put it here and shared it there.

So that said, a lot of what you need to know can be found in these threads.:
https://www.boxerforums.com/training-behavior/199025-argggg-dog-attack-stray-dog-encounters.html

https://www.boxerforums.com/training-behavior/199033-argggg-dog-attack-yet-again-but-time.html

And as always ... ask questions. :)
 

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We had an unusual situation with a female boxer we tried to adopt a few years ago. The relevant part is that she attacked our super timid big boxer, Tundra, 3 times. Luckily she never drew blood and luckily he didn't fight back (he was almost twice her size and a power chewer). She would grab his neck suddenly and not let go.
Well since you said "Girl" of course I gotta chime in! :)

And what you saw ... is pretty much what the girls are like ... when they lose it! And most owner "never" see it and really can't believe there "Baby Girl" could ever do that??

And the fact that her chosen victim, the male "twice her size" did not fight back ... is not unusual?? All the "Male" housemate wants to do ... is get the "Hell out of Dodge!" I have seen it! And when "Struddell" lost it the first time "Baby Kittens" being born and "Gunther" Not Showing Proper Respect!" I had to deal with!

And Gunther (American Band Dawg) rolled out of the box (as it were) and was a "Dominate Male" and if given the opportunity, liked nothing more that a good tussle! But he wanted no part of Struddell's madness??? She got him by the nose (nipped him) before I could intervene. IE ... i'm outta here let "Daddy deal with this crap! :)

Now the difference(for me) was, they had both lived together for years ... so I understood this was an "aberration??" And yeah months later the pig ear incident but again unusual circumstance preceded the incident.

But regardless of "why" the level of ferocity, is what you will see with "Girls, gone wrong!" The difference is or seems to be when they go after "Male House Mate's" which I will still say is fairly unusual?? The Male Victim, just wants to get away!

But if the victim, happens to be another "Female Boxer" Whatever that "Nut Up, Rage Factor" is??? It say's "Bring It ON!" And you have "two Dogs Engaged" in combat and not just one!

Now if it's a Dog you have had for years and you can point to the trigger point's, your willing to "work with it??" But if it's a dog you just got and they pull this crap?? It's back to rescue you go ... if the dog is "lucky!"

And if one already has a "Female Boxer" there is a "Very High" chance that one will see this!?

But your victim was a "Male??" So you know what happened here?? Well I don't know? But what my have helped prevent it possibly?? Would have been more discipline all around and a "Two Week Shut Down??" But you ... know why do that?? As I am pretty sure ... there seemed to be no need??

A Boxer you know ... so I'd guess, she appeared to get alone fine with people and other dogs?? House Broken and reasonably well, behaved so you know no "need" for extra effort required?? Sigh, it's just questions and I don't know the answers but ... "Boxer Rescue Policy" would seem to suggest that "two female "Boxers" is generally not a really great idea for "most people!"

And yes your attempt was with that one and she went after a male?? Not unheard of but kinda of an aberration?? And he wanted to get away so that was good and dare I say "typical??" But had the victim been another female Boxer?? Most likely the situation would have escalated??

So no not directly related, to the two females in the same home thing. But you saw the "Boxer Female Rage" of which I speak. It's not something I'm eager to deal with again so ... it looks like my next Boxer will have to be a male. :cry:





I don't think you really know what your base instincts are in a situation like your dog being attacked until it happens. I could be wrong, but I think people respond differently.
I think what you did was a reasonable response, and what a lot of people would do.
Nope you don't but if you see it happen and sigh I usually did! You will go after the aggressor! :)
 

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Well since you said "Girl" of course I gotta chime in! :)

And what you saw ... is pretty much what the girls are like ... when they lose it! And most owner "never" see it and really can't believe there "Baby Girl" could ever do that??

And the fact that her chosen victim, the male "twice her size" did not fight back ... is not unusual?? All the "Male" housemate wants to do ... is get the "Hell out of Dodge!" I have seen it! And when "Struddell" lost it the first time "Baby Kittens" being born and "Gunther" Not Showing Proper Respect!" I had to deal with!

And Gunther (American Band Dawg) rolled out of the box (as it were) and was a "Dominate Male" and if given the opportunity, liked nothing more that a good tussle! But he wanted no part of Struddell's madness??? She got him by the nose (nipped him) before I could intervene. IE ... i'm outta here let "Daddy deal with this crap! :)

Now the difference(for me) was, they had both lived together for years ... so I understood this was an "aberration??" And yeah months later the pig ear incident but again unusual circumstance preceded the incident.

But regardless of "why" the level of ferocity, is what you will see with "Girls, gone wrong!" The difference is or seems to be when they go after "Male House Mate's" which I will still say is fairly unusual?? The Male Victim, just wants to get away!

But if the victim, happens to be another "Female Boxer" Whatever that "Nut Up, Rage Factor" is??? It say's "Bring It ON!" And you have "two Dogs Engaged" in combat and not just one!

Now if it's a Dog you have had for years and you can point to the trigger point's, your willing to "work with it??" But if it's a dog you just got and they pull this crap?? It's back to rescue you go ... if the dog is "lucky!"

And if one already has a "Female Boxer" there is a "Very High" chance that one will see this!?

But your victim was a "Male??" So you know what happened here?? Well I don't know? But what my have helped prevent it possibly?? Would have been more discipline all around and a "Two Week Shut Down??" But you ... know why do that?? As I am pretty sure ... there seemed to be no need??

A Boxer you know ... so I'd guess, she appeared to get alone fine with people and other dogs?? House Broken and reasonably well, behaved so you know no "need" for extra effort required?? Sigh, it's just questions and I don't know the answers but ... "Boxer Rescue Policy" would seem to suggest that "two female "Boxers" is generally not a really great idea for "most people!"

And yes your attempt was with that one and she went after a male?? Not unheard of but kinda of an aberration?? And he wanted to get away so that was good and dare I say "typical??" But had the victim been another female Boxer?? Most likely the situation would have escalated??

So no not directly related, to the two females in the same home thing. But you saw the "Boxer Female Rage" of which I speak. It's not something I'm eager to deal with again so ... it looks like my next Boxer will have to be a male. :cry:





Nope you don't but if you see it happen and sigh I usually did! You will go after the aggressor! :)

She got along great w/ my alpha male, but attacked the big baby- we found out after that she had similar issues in her original home too. It all worked out in the end, she moved on to a retired couple as an only, spoiled dog. I'll always miss her....but it was the right thing to do for everyone.

We will likely adopt an older rescue when we lose two of our boys...I dread the day, but it's a reality. Our big boy has a couple of growths that we are having checked tomorrow. Keeping our fingers crossed that it's not cancer....but the odds are not in our favor.
 

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She got along great w/ my alpha male, but attacked the big baby- we found out after that she had similar issues in her original home too. It all worked out in the end, she moved on to a retired couple as an only, spoiled dog. I'll always miss her....but it was the right thing to do for everyone.



We will likely adopt an older rescue when we lose two of our boys...I dread the day, but it's a reality. Our big boy has a couple of growths that we are having checked tomorrow. Keeping our fingers crossed that it's not cancer....but the odds are not in our favor.
Fingers crossed for you that everything is OK. Do keep us posted.

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I think that would be my big concern for her right now is that when another dog approaches she will think she is going to be attacked and go on the defensive.
That is of course a "possibility??" But if a dog has "Good Nerves" they can shake it off as it were. :)

That is dog's can still determine friend from foe. Rocky's behavior towards other dogs (not that we hung around other dogs) but with "dogs acting normally," his behavior did not change. But if a dog came charging at him with "intent??" He was no longer as blase about it as he had been!

I mean 14 times it was "Rocky Stay," I step in front to stop the dog (I've never had to make contact with any of them) cuz most "normal dogs" only see your dog and not you??? You block there view of there intended target and they have to recalculation ie where the heck did that guy come from ???

Rocky was always pretty bored with it all, kinda like "Oh Dad ... there he goes again!" :)

But back on point a member on here (awhile ago) had this happen. And her solution and this depends on where you live and what is available??

But "Pack Walks" are a viable rehab option. Mostly gonna be "responsible owners present and all dogs on leashes!" And she did report back that her dog was fine. :)
 

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She got along great w/ my alpha male, but attacked the big baby- we found out after that she had similar issues in her original home too. It all worked out in the end, she moved on to a retired couple as an only, spoiled dog. I'll always miss her....but it was the right thing to do for everyone.
Well that is a little odd?? But you did help her to find a suitable home in the end. And that is all that really matters, you did good! :)

We will likely adopt an older rescue when we lose two of our boys...I dread the day, but it's a reality. Our big boy has a couple of growths that we are having checked tomorrow. Keeping our fingers crossed that it's not cancer....but the odds are not in our favor.
Yeah I'd consider an older dog. But we have four cats and I am tired of rehabbing "cat chasing dogs." But it's not the dogs it's the cats!! The dog (Bella) this time is fine but two out of the four cats are complete uh ... "tools!" They eye ball her and like to block her path all the time!

Move CAT, is something I have to say uh daily??? The other two treat her like she has always been here! But the other two large blk males ... won't let the pass go!! She scared the crap out of them once what 10 months ago and she they won't let it go!!! I can rehab dogs ... but not much luck with the cats??? :chair:

And of course we are praying for your boy ... we hope it goes well. That has to be nerve racking! :(
 
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