Boxer Breed Dog Forums banner

1 - 20 of 37 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
25 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
We are looking to purchase a puppy from the above breeder. Their dogs are beautiful and the website shows some loving dogs and family. We are set on buying a boxer for our family and are just researching breeders. We think we are set with autumnspringsboxers.com I just thought I would ask if anyone here has heard of them or purchased any puppies from them. Thank you and cant wait to show off our new addition to you when we do finally purchase!

Thank you!
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
13,468 Posts
Have you contacted them and asked what health tests are done ?
The website doesn't mention any health testing.


:) Welcome to the forum, BTW
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
25 Posts
Discussion Starter #3 (Edited)
Have you contacted them and asked what health tests are done ?
The website doesn't mention any health testing.


:) Welcome to the forum, BTW
Yes I have spoke with them, under "about your new puppy" on the site it says, "All of our puppies are AKC and come with a health guarantee. They will have their dew claws removed & their tails docked. Your new puppy will have current shots and a current health certificate. They have human interaction from the day they are born to the day they leave for their new homes. We start house breaking at 6 weeks of age and most are fully house broke before 8 weeks. All of our puppies are micro chipped for loss prevention. We use AKC CAR 134.2 kHz ISO microchips. These are registered at the same time you register your puppy with ACK. We take pride in providing you with a healthy puppy that will transition to their new home with ease", and that is basically what he told me. I do not know if they have had dna testing or xrays. Is that something I should ask/be concerned about?
...and thanks for the quick reply :)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,694 Posts
Their pups are cute and dogs are "pretty" (what boxer isn't) but IMHO they are not breed worthy nor up to the standard either. And the fact that they mention no health testing on their site would make me leary of them. I know some breeders dont list it but can provide hard copies of all the testing upon request.....ask them about that. Ask about heart, Hip, thyroid, ect testing. Health guarantees are pretty much worthless if its just a one year as most problems won't start arising until the age of two. And IMHO again, them saying their pups are housetrained by 8 weeks old is a load of crap
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
25 Posts
Discussion Starter #5
I will certainly ask those health questions but why do you say they are not up to standard? They are a deeper red but from what I have read and seen that is acceptable.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,694 Posts
IMO they have quite a bit of faults and are definetly not up to the standard.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
879 Posts
Just from reading thru their info and contract, I wouldnt buy from them.
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
7,031 Posts
There is no health testing listed. By health testing we mean genetic testing that has been done on both parents which includes:

Hip Evaluation by either OFA or PennHip to test for Hip Dysplasia
24 Heart Holter Monitor to test for Cardiomyopathy
Echo Doppler Ultrasound to test for Aortic Stenosis
Blood test to test for Thyroid Disease

The above conditions are genetic and a reputable breeder will have done them to insure that their breeding stock is healthy.

Also I am not a fan of the 1 yr health guarantee and if you read the guarantee the wording is just an out for the breeder. Most health issues do not appear by 12mths of age, also their contract says over and over that they only cover "serious, life threatening conditions" So your dog could have a heart issue but because it isnt dead or dying they do not need to honour the contract.

Personally I would pass on this breeder. Instead I would look for one that health tests and offers at least a 2 yr guarantee.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
25 Posts
Discussion Starter #9 (Edited)
Hmm well from hours on the computer looking at breeders i cannot find one in Florida that specifically says they do the type of health tests everyone talks about, its hard to find good info on breeders at all really. Others I did find only bred for shows. If anyone can help me find a reputable breeder in Fl please help! Thank you to everyone for your quick replies and your knowledge!
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
7,031 Posts
I would contact your local breed club and see if they recommend any breeders in your state. Southeast Florida Boxer Club Just because a breeder doesnt list an upcoming litter doesnt mean they can't help point you in the right direction. I would send out an email saying you are looking for a reputable breeder who thoroughly health tests. Maybe someone can recommend another breeder to you.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
879 Posts
They are absolutely beautiful dogs and pups, just not standing behind their breeding program IMO, with such a poor contract and no testing listed.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
833 Posts
I agree with 2manydogs... Keep looking for a very reputable breeder who does do the proper health testing.

If you get a puppy from properly tested dogs then your puppy's odds for a long and happy life are much better.

We did research for quite some time and then went on a waiting list for our girl. The benefits of ensuring a good breeder far out-weigh the convenience of getting a puppy from a back yard breeder or someone who doessn't do the proper health tests. The puppies are generally a bit more money but from what I understand the breeders do not make any money on their puppies as the health testing is expensive.

Some breeders that do breed for showing also have family pets for sale as well. Not every single puppy they have is show-worthy so they typically are sold for pets only.

Keep looking. You will find a puppy that's right for you.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
144 Posts
I just have to chime in because today, Merckx is relapsing for the 3rd time, his meningitis, which most are in agreement that he was probably born with this auto immune problem and they told us that they were health tested and all that Luckily it is steroid responsive, on top of the meningitis he also has demodectic mange. Ask for specific tests! My dog is only 1.5 years old and we've spent over $5000 treating him for so many things. Maybe we just got a special needs pup but if only we knew to ask better questions earlier.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3,201 Posts
Hmm well from hours on the computer looking at breeders i cannot find one in Florida that specifically says they do the type of health tests everyone talks about, its hard to find good info on breeders at all really. Others I did find only bred for shows. If anyone can help me find a reputable breeder in Fl please help! Thank you to everyone for your quick replies and your knowledge!
Those who bred for showing are the typical reputable breeders you will find. Just because they breed for show doesn't mean they don't have any "pet" puppies. There are usually multiple pet puppies in a litter bred for show. They breeder typically keeps the most correct puppy for showing and places the other show puppies with people who show.. and the pet puppies go into pet homes. You will very rarely find a reputable breeder who doesn't show or work their dogs...
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
25 Posts
Discussion Starter #16
Well over the past couple days I have emailed and called several breeders with no returned calls or emails. Got most of the breeders off of akc website and the south east boxer site. Hopefully i will get a return within a few days. Really discouraging. But thank you to all who have replied and given their info. :)
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
1,141 Posts
If you're willing to travel my breeder is in Ohio. They Are going to have a litter due soon. Their site is Dunnford Boxers - Dunnford Boxers. If you look at my threads you can see my girls at every stage of life. Really good people, they health test and the results are on the site. They also answer the phone whenever you call. They also like to stay in contact for the life of the pup you get from them for 2 reasons, they consider you family once you get pups from them and so they can track any health issues that arise.

They are 2 sisters and their one male Dallas who's actually my Bellas grandad achieved his championship title and their other male Ryder is showing still.

The pups stay inside since day 1, are born inside, they have no kennels and all their adults sleep in their houses. All around GREAT people. They also love for the people they approve to come visit and meet them as well as the girls and boys and to see their places(they live literally around the corner from each other) before you get the pup. I made 3 trips out there before I picked up my girls. I got to see them every 2 weeks and they always welcomed the visits and fed me while I was there lol.
Good luck getting a pup:)

Also heres a link of breeders that may help- You have to be reputable pretty much to get on there. They're picky about whos links make the list
Links - American Boxer Breeders
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,694 Posts
Well over the past couple days I have emailed and called several breeders with no returned calls or emails. Got most of the breeders off of akc website and the south east boxer site. Hopefully i will get a return within a few days. Really discouraging. But thank you to all who have replied and given their info. :)
Being patient will pay off!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
25 Posts
Discussion Starter #19
Thank u for the kind words and advice. Ohio is a little too far but we are waiting and we know the right pup will find us!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,751 Posts
I agree with everyone else. I'd pass on that breeder as well. I got pretty lucky when I was searching for Logan's breeder. I found them relatively quick. They were great people, they show their dogs, they do the health testing, etc. The only downside is that I live in New Hampshire and they lived in Arizona. That wasn't really a problem though because we were able to fly Logan into our local airport. What I'm trying to say is that you shouldn't be afraid to reach out to breeders outside of Florida. Sure it's ideal to have them in the same state, the closer the better, but you may find the right breeder a little further away. :)

Have you tried to do a Google search for "health tested boxer puppies"? You should get a decent list by doing that. Good luck!!
 
1 - 20 of 37 Posts
Top