Boxer Breed Dog Forums banner

1 - 20 of 53 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
16 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
OK. White Boxer=genetic issues=Bad.

Other than the standards calling for only fawns and brindles, what's wrong with a black boxer? Is there a genetic issue with that color strain?

Mario
Now ducking and covering... :wink:
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,466 Posts
As far as I understand it there is no black gene in boxers, so people who claim to have "black" boxers are most likely not pure, and somewhere in the bloodlines there is a mix.  I'm sure someone else will be able to explain it better.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
375 Posts
I think the reasoning is beacause there cant be a "pure bred" boxer that is a TRUE black,if it is a TRUE black then there was another breed thrown in there some where. But there can be  a sealed reveres brindle that LOOKS black, but in sun light you can see the fawn brindeling.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,694 Posts
HAHA Mario you are too funny!!!

Honestly there is absolutely no such thing as a purebred black boxer. Genetically impossible. Some may appear to be black but arent they are brindle!

PS if you searched before posting this Im sure you will find PLENTY on the "rare black boxers"!!!!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,097 Posts
In my search for a boxer to adopt (before I began fostering Max) I came across several breeders advertising black boxers. I wouldn't even call them because there had to be some level of dishonesty. Another breed mixed in to add the "black" gene or trying to say a reverse brindle is a black. Honesty, I think the reverse brindles are beautiful but I wouldn't deal with a breeder whose advertising is misleading.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
16 Posts
Discussion Starter #8
RoxyGirl22\";p=\"116825 said:
PS if you searched before posting this Im sure you will find PLENTY on the "rare black boxers"!!!!
Searched for a half an hour. Problem is when you type in "Black Boxer" you get every post where the word "black" or "boxer" appear. The only things I found on "rare black boxers" were folks making fun of them or their breeders. Nothing on why.

I was told to keep my opinions to myself, I guess I'll keep my questions to myself, also.

Thanks to those who actually answered my question.

Mario
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,679 Posts
PigDog\";p=\"116857 said:
[quote="RoxyGirl22\";p=\"116825":wbr6ldct]
PS if you searched before posting this Im sure you will find PLENTY on the "rare black boxers"!!!!
Searched for a half an hour. Problem is when you type in "Black Boxer" you get every post where the word "black" or "boxer" appear. The only things I found on "rare black boxers" were folks making fun of them or their breeders. Nothing on why.

I was told to keep my opinions to myself, I guess I'll keep my questions to myself, also.

Thanks to those who actually answered my question.

Mario[/quote:wbr6ldct]

honestly, everyone in this thread answered your question...
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,327 Posts
mario... the searching can be difficult

the best thing to do is click the andvanced search and type black AND boxer... that will have those together
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,661 Posts
Mario- There were at one point trying to breed the color black into the boxer line, but that was MANY years ago. Many people will call a heavily brindled boxer black b/c it can appear so. The black gene is not in the boxer line so you will never have a black boxer....no matter what the so called breeder says. It is always a good idea to watch out for those type of people advertising a "rare white" or "rare black" boxer, for they are very uneducated in the breed and put rare on it to jack the prices of their pups up. Even the darkest brindle dogs will have a sliver or two of brindle on them. Typically around the head or on their hind end. If you look at Brodi (cholebellesmommy) little boy you will see what i am talking about if you want to add pics. Or there is also a very informative thread about the colors with pics somewhere on the forum. If you would like i can find that post and post the link for you.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,552 Posts
There were at one point trying to breed the color black into the boxer line, but that was MANY years ago.
Yes, about 90 years ago, actually. :)  The dogs at that time were descendants of a Schnauzer-Bulldog cross.  When the Munich Boxer Club disallowed the black dogs, the line died out.  Since black is a dominant color, it cannot have laid "hidden" over the past century, and so it would be impossible for the color to suddenly show up as it has in the last several years unless, once again, another breed that carries the gene for a black coat was brought into the mix.  

I have a much longer version of this argument ;) here:
http://www.newcastleboxers.com/blackboxers.shtml
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
16 Posts
Discussion Starter #13
Understood. We had a Mountain Cur that was like that. Black in some light, brindle in most.

Laura, thanks for the search tip.

Mario
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,661 Posts
Newcastle\";p=\"116898 said:
[quote:2b8s88ho]There were at one point trying to breed the color black into the boxer line, but that was MANY years ago.
Yes, about 90 years ago, actually. :)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
139 Posts
PigDog\";p=\"116857 said:
Searched for a half an hour. Problem is when you type in "Black Boxer" you get every post where the word "black" or "boxer" appear. The only things I found on "rare black boxers" were folks making fun of them or their breeders. Nothing on why.

I was told to keep my opinions to myself, I guess I'll keep my questions to myself, also.

Thanks to those who actually answered my question.

Mario
  Try searching black boxer/dog history.You should get a couple of sites on the 1st page.
 
G

·
Guest
Joined
·
0 Posts
my boxer tess is a "black boxer" i am sure that techniqually she is a reverse brindle, but she is purebred, i have her papers, unless somehow they are fake, but i really doubt that, when she had puppies most of them came out black and even in the sun light, i didnt see any thing other than black (besides their white chests).... dont get me wrong i am not trying to say that anyone is wrong in saying that a black boxer doesnt really exist, but i just wanted to put it out there that there are boxers that do LOOK compleatly black, also i dont think that just because a breeder says that they have black boxers that anyone should look down upon that just because it isnt a "breed standard"... in my opinion i just think that a breeder would more likely say black because it is easyer than explaining what reverse brindle means to a person who might not know what that is.



 

·
Registered
Joined
·
143 Posts
I wonder what a DNA test would show if someone has a very dark, no brindle marks, boxer? You might be surprised, and you might not. There could be another breed in the wood pile! I will buy a purebred black boxer right after my purebred brindle lab arrives.
 
1 - 20 of 53 Posts
Top