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I'm new to the forum, and third Boxer owner.

I live in the Inland Empire, SoCal, and I'm looking for a doctor that knows how to crop Boxers' ears. I want the best for a perfect cut.

Thanks in advanced.

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Are you planning to show? From what I understand, even the show circle no longer insists on cropped ears anymore. Floppy is beautiful and doesn't hurt the puppy!:clap:
 

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Ear cropping seems to be controversial these days. Although it supposedly can be done anytime I wouldn't after 12 weeks. It does hurt the pup, there will be stitches and after care. I use to have mini schnauzers and we always had their ears done before we would even sell the pup, I wouldn't do it anymore, but that is my personal choice. As for your question I do not know of anyone in So Cal that does ear cropping. I know that when I lived in NJ we would take the puppies to Pennsylvania to get ears done as it really needed to be precise and not every vet was good at it (show wise) I understand today boxers can be shown in natural state. Tail docking is also becoming controversial but at least it is done at 2 days old.
 

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I kinda sorta thought it was done at an early age also?? When I got my first Boxer I wanted her Cropped and Docked. My wife did not want her altered at all. Struddell was already docked and asked the breeder about the cropping, took me much for me. I figured oh well tail done a reasonable compromise. :)

ANd as it turned out the "floppy" ears suited her personality just fine. I've had absolutely no regrets over that "compromise."

Now if I ever that Dogo Argentino that I want, yeah that guys getting cropped. :)
 

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How old is your pup? It's typically not done after 10 weeks of age.
He is at 9 weeks now.

Found a vet, and made an appointment. My previous Boxers had them cropped. I will buy a female to breed them, and planned on leaving the female with regular ears.

Regarding the tail, I think all Boxers' tail should be docked. These days it's done with a rubber band.
 

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I'm new to the forum, and third Boxer owner.

I live in the Inland Empire, SoCal, and I'm looking for a doctor that knows how to crop Boxers' ears. I want the best for a perfect cut.

Thanks in advanced.

Pete
It is mutilation... There is no reason for it and the pups suffer greatly. It is also a lot of work for the owner.. Let the puppy be, it looks great like it is



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Cropping and docking is personal preference. Ear cropping is usually done on those who wish to show but it's also done by those that prefer the look of a cropped dog. To each their own.........

As for breeding....... Please do your research on proper breeding practices including health testing.
 

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Cropping and docking is personal preference. Ear cropping is usually done on those who wish to show but it's also done by those that prefer the look of a cropped dog. To each their own.........

As for breeding....... Please do your research on proper breeding practices including health testing.
I can tell you that I and many of us here would not purchase a boxer from anyone who does not genetically health test. And that means not just having a vet say, yes your dog is healthy . I want to see the test results and on more than just the dam & sire, I'd prefer 3 generations. Then again I just lost my boxer to cancer and while it wasn't necessarily genetic I will alway s wonder. I do know his parents are both 9 but I lost him at 5 years 6 month. I spent an enormous amount of time and money on him and he was such a good boy. It was a real loss. So if your going to breed please please buy from genetically tested lineage , continue testing and prove to me they are breed worthy . Thats a breeder I will purchase from.
 

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Just buying a female so you can breed your male is a really bad idea. There is a lot that goes into selecting the proper match for a litter. You will have no idea if your new bitch is a good match for your dog until she is at least 3yrs old.
Will her health tests be good?
Will she have the right temperament ?
Will she have the right traits to complement your male ?

If you do your research I'm sure you will find that usually only BYB have both parents. It's quite unusual for respectable breeders (of any breed) to have both parents, they do exhaustive research to find just the right match for their dog when they want a litter.
 

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Is it true that if a puppy comes from a breeder that has both parents it's usually a BYB? That seems to be most of the popular breeders you can find with websites, facebook accounts, etc.

It's very tough finding a reputable breeder.
 

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Is it true that if a puppy comes from a breeder that has both parents it's usually a BYB? That seems to be most of the popular breeders you can find with websites, facebook accounts, etc.

It's very tough finding a reputable breeder.
If it's a reputable breeder then they probably have "co-ownership" of one of the parents who usually doesn't live in the same home. Usually if a good breeder has males and females they don't breed them together but find suitable mates elsewhere for the reasons I mentioned above.
It's not that you are always going to get a bad match by just breeding any two dogs but proper breeders are always trying to improve (or at least maintain) quality in the breed. This is why good breeders with truly quality champion dogs will often have sperm frozen for future stud applications when they find just the right female.

If it's me, I walk away from any "breeder" who has 2 dogs of their own and produces litters. They may not have bad intentions but it shows they really are not prepared to be true breeders. IMHO
 

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No, its not a BYB that has both parents. I know several breeders who are researching their lines and doing responsible breeding programs. This is not simply breeding a "pretty dog" to a pretty dog there is so much more to responsible breeding. A good breeder will seek out lines of dogs that have proven temperaments and good health they will go to the expense of having their breeding pairs health tested from a reputable testing center such as a Veterinary Collage or University or Vet specialist that can back up their work. I think if more people were being careful breeding these dogs we would be reading about less tragedies on this site. A good breeder will answer all your questions interview you to make sure you are a suitable and responsible owner even refuse to sell you a dog if you are found to be lacking in that department. They will be able to show you documentation on the parent health results as well. Good breeders want to better this breed we love and its well worth the time to research breeders and find a good and reputable one they are out there you just have to look!
 

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I'm finding it incredibly tough to find these good breeders @Instructor and @[email protected] are speaking about. I just experieneced one of these tragedies a few days ago. We thought we found a good reputable breeder 8 years ago, but now I know more and think differently. My guy had cardiomyopathy that wasn't tested and other littermates also had it, she never reached out to the owners of other littermates when the first ARVC was found. After talking to other owners, we now know DM runs in the lines. So long story short, I'm really trying to do more research, but finding it so challenging. So many boxer breeders you find seem to be so interested in "pretty" aspect for show.
 

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You can start doing online research "boxer breeders" there are several sites that offer these searches I found my dogs on Hoobly but there are so many other sites as well there is an AKC breeders website as well just be warned that AKC doesn't mean the dogs were health tested. And yes cardiomyopathy is one of the things a good breeder will test the parents for they should have had a holter test and an echo cardiogram as well as a test for DM another all too common problem you DO NOT want. I say take your time and really look for your own sake. Some of those site will have a link to the breeders website as well go there and keep looking Don't accept "well my dogs have never had a problem" because that's not good enough testing is.
 

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Boxers are in the top 5 for most popular dogs so it's not surprising that there are lots of "breeders".

Being on this forum is a wonderful 1st step to finding a quality breeder but I would also suggest you check with the AKC or CKC for their recommendations for breeders and even go attend a couple dog shows in your area (once life gets back to normal).

Most BYB do not show their dogs at all so going to a dog show and talking with those who's dogs do well (ie: best in breed/group) will start you in the right direction. I have also found that many of the true quality breeders all know each other quite well and know about each others dogs and breeding programs. Most of them will gladly help you find a dog even if they don't have a suitable litter available themselves.

There are several good threads on this site about how to find a quality breeder, take some time to look them over and ask lots of questions.
 

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Thanks for both posts. I'm surprised by finding a dog on hoobly, figured that would attract the BYB crowd similar to craigslist. Will definitely be doing a lot of research.
 
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