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Does anyone have any info on Erin Boxers out of NJ? Looking to hear from anyone with past experiences.
 

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Never heard of it..tried to Google it and all it came back with was an add from Doglovers.com, which makes me suspicious..Tried another link I have for breeders and couldn't find a listing there either
 

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hmm. It is kind of suspicious that there is very little info especially after the claim of being one of the top breeders. I would continue doing some research...speaking from experience I wish I did more research before getting a boxer.
 

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I saw no mention at all of their dogs, no thoughts on testing, matter of fact, all I see is a bunch of pictures...Are you considering a Boxer from there? I think you may want to keep looking
 
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I saw no mention at all of their dogs, no thoughts on testing, matter of fact, all I see is a bunch of pictures...Are you considering a Boxer from there? I think you may want to keep looking
I'm with Willow.....their site isn't much help...... :?
 

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If you're looking for boxers in NJ. I would look into Avalon Boxers - http://www.avalonkennels.net/ . They are supposively reputable. I contacted them twice and they never got back to me. But maybe you'll have better luck. I've heard good things about them. Also try Pheasant Hollow Boxers out of Walkill, NY.http://www.pheasanthollowboxers.com/ It's like 10 min from NJ. I went to visit Kerry Jones there in April and she was great. The dogs were beautiful, especially Louie. He was as solid as can be and a great looking dog. Pheasant Hollow has a couple female's about to whelp in July and August. Good luck.
 

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on the site...the pics from "new puppies" and "our boxers" look the same to me, but the site wasnt very helpful at all. If you are interested in them, it couldnt hurt to try to email them to ask a few questions like: do you have any credentials proving you to be one of the top breeders in the US? do you health test the sire/dam before breeding them? is the sire on site (something you might want to stay away from)? do you show/do agility/obedience? when do you let the pups go home w/ their new families (if its before 8 weeks, find a new breeder)?. theres more questions to ask, but im sure you get the point by now.

BUT judging by the poor construction of the site (regardless of how long its been up) and lack of info leads me to think that they would not get back to you in a timely manner. Ive made fully functional websites as simple as that in a few hours. Also, if they dont take the effort to make a simple website telling you about their program and such makes me think that theyre just trying to push puppies. (all personal opinion of course)
 

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That site looks sketchy to me. Everything is under construction. And their dogs and new puppies look like the same dogs. I would do more research on breeders.
 

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You cannot judge a breeder by a site. I have not ever heard of them but please visit this site with questions to ask a breeder to deem if they are reputable or not.

http://www.newcastleboxers.com/breederquestions.shtml


I second Pauls comments with regard to Kerry Jones (Phesant Hollow) and Dan Buchwald (Avalon). I have met both breeders, seen their dogs and know they are ligit as can be. Also there you may want to check out http://www.cachetboxers.com/ Luanne is very nice and helpful esp when people are looking for a reputable breeder.

Also look in the surrounding states, as its worth the extra time and travel for a healthy pup!
 

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We got our boy from Erin's Boxers in New Jersey.

Not much of a website agreed but we were referred to them via the NJ Boxer club. Our boy's lineage comes from the famous Jacquet Boxers from Breeder Rick Tomita who is a very well thought of Breeder in New Jersey. His dogs can go for 4500 bucks and up. We have been ecstastic with our boys temperment and health has not been an issue other than never really having a solid poop which unfortunately is part of the breed standard it seems from the other boxer owners we meet. Overall we found them to be very nice people who care deeply about the breed. With any prospective boxer buyer u must ask for the medical records for testing etc....We would definitely get another boxer from them. We are partial to the dark or reverse brindle and they seem to do it well. One warning they breed on the bigger side ppl cant get over how long Maximus' legs are. He is the star of the neighborhood everyone knows and loves him. Hope this helps.

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Feel free to email an additional questions to [email protected].

Link to Jacquet Boxers http://www.jacquetboxers.com/
 

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I agree, I don't think you can judge a breeder by a website! If someone is really into boxers, they may not be very computer savvy. Of course questions regarding health testing, etc. and everything Hanna mentioned in the FAQ's will help you figure it out. Also, in my google search it does appear that they actively (or at least somewhat) do show their dogs. Good luck with your search, I know it can be very hard. :)
 

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i also have to agree,
i have bred and shown boxers for over 20 years and i have to say out of all the boxer breeders i have ever met, rick is one of the nicest out there, i live only 5 minutes away from jacquet boxers and when ever i needed any kind of advice with my boxers rick was allways there for me, even with some surprise visits to his kennel with some of my dogs rick was allways happy to see me and give his advice, you can't go wrong with a jacquet boxer, ricks dogs are top notch, the boxer next to the statue is half jacquet bloodlines.

 

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I looked into Jacquet Boxers. I had a problem with Rick not health testing. He told me that he carefully selects which boxers he breeds and that they are all in such good health he doesnt need to health test. It worried me that he didn't health test and I would be basically just going by his word that his boxers are all healthy. But when I did speak with Rick he was very nice.
 

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well i look at it this way, say a three year old bitch passes all the health test with flying colors and is bred and all the puppies are healthy then a year or two down the road that same bitch develops a problem of some sort, i've seen it happen so many times, then the puppy that you bought came from a parent with a known health problem, rick knows about the health of his dogs as he probably owned the great great great grand parents of his breeders, he has been breeding for a long time, and he knows the health of his bloodlines, if there was any known health problems i know rick would not breed the bitch or dog, i had one of ricks dogs he was 90 lbs ripped and he lived to be 13 years old and i never had to take him to the vet once only for routine shots.
 

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I have known Rick for over eight years, in that time I have owned three of Rick’s dog. My boy Bismarck who pasted this year was eight years and three months old, his sire (his father) was sixteen when he passed. Rick is my mentor and a friend, like Greg said Rick knows his dog and cares about them. Pualm you recommend going to Pheasant Hollow Boxers, but their line came out of Jacquet Boxers as well as many other breeders in the NY/NJ area. Rick is a guy who cares a lot about his boxer and treats them like they are his kids, going to show I have seen some things for some breeders that I would never buy or breed with one of their dog. At several show I have seen this one breeder hit their dogs, one time after one of their bitch went after my bitch Juno(with females this happens a lot) my handler told this person that they need to keep better control of their dog. So what does this person do hits the dog right in the face, now if that’s what they do at a dog show what do they do back in their kennel. This is why people say go to the shows and get to know the breeders and their dogs as well as their pedigree. Now this post was not about Jacquet Boxer but Erin Boxers if you want to know more about them you should contact them and the NJ Boxer Club for more answer. Yes their website is not good and they should either update it or just take it down, I feel a bad website does more to hurt your business then having no website at all.
Ryan
The picture is of Red and I, he went Best of Opposite.
 
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well i look at it this way, say a three year old bitch passes all the health test with flying colors and is bred and all the puppies are healthy then a year or two down the road that same bitch develops a problem of some sort, i've seen it happen so many times, then the puppy that you bought came from a parent with a known health problem, rick knows about the health of his dogs as he probably owned the great great great grand parents of his breeders, he has been breeding for a long time, and he knows the health of his bloodlines, if there was any known health problems i know rick would not breed the bitch or dog, i had one of ricks dogs he was 90 lbs ripped and he lived to be 13 years old and i never had to take him to the vet once only for routine shots.
so you are saying Rick doesn't need to health test his dogs anymore because the original bitch was health tested and passed with flying colors? isn't there a possibility of a puppy developing a health problem even though the parents, even grandparents were healthy?

I think the best and safest thing would be to health test EVERY bitch and stud before breeding.

Just curious and sharing my opinion!
 

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There are two sides to every coin and the potential puppy buyer needs to feel 100% comfortable with the ethics of breeding of the breeding they are seeking out.

Some breeders line breed in which the theory behind this is that due to the fact they know what they are breeding it decreases the health risks in the linebred offspring. Linebreeding is ONLY as good as the breeder who has been doing it. As mentioned above Jacquet boxers is a linebreeding kennel. I dont know them, but have heard of their dogs. Due to the fact they breed very close, they are comfortable breeding without health testing because they know the lines and the longivity of them - thats fine, but takes the right person to be 100% comfortable with this breeding practice. However sometimes they will and may have to outcross and breeding to something outside their lines esp if their lines are getting too close. When this happens you risk the unknown entering into your lines.

On the other side of the dime is the breeders who breed to other dogs with maybe some common dogs in the pedigree or none what so ever. Due to the fact you are breeding with unknown dogs, or known dogs with some unknowns behind them, they do health test to make sure that they are indeed breed and breeding to a healthy dog.

Regardless IMO when it comes to health, there are always things that can pop up - on linebred dogs, passing health tested dogs as well as dogs that were not linebred or tested. Any chance to reduce the risks of something happen IMO is well worth it and may decrease the chance of heartache in the end. Whether you feel comfortable with a linebred dog as a way of health testing or a dog that has been thru and passed tests all depends on what you feel comfortable with:)
 

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my cousin is being taken to court for a dog they bought from them the breeder wanted to breed if even after the vet said it was unhelathy with bad bleeding in her heats so my cousin fixed her and the breeder is trying to make them pay for pups never had lolol rather put the dog threw danger then have a heathly pet sad!!!!
 
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