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Hi i just joined the forum after a few days of just surfing. Looks like a wonderful place to be. I will give you a little information on my scoop lol. A year ago my roomate wanted a dog and I told him get a boxer because I just love them. So it was a good experience because i got to take care of one without the $$ aspect even though there weren't many problems to take care of. My roomate moved back home and took the boxer with him. :( I have wanted my own for years but havent been in the best state to have one for my own. Im now 23 and am finishing my last semester of university in Toronto. I am from Bermuda so will eventually be living with the new boxer there. I have been looking around and have come across Lando's boxers which is about an hour and a half away from me. http://landosbxer.com/
I am going this weekend to take a look and have a chat. If ANYONE has any info or experiences with them it would be wonderful! also here is the stipulation. Ideally i would have loved to get the new pup/dog end of april when i will be graduating and will be going back to bermuda during the summer until oct. and will come back to toronto for about another year or two. I would have loved to bring up the puppy in bermuda where it would have a large yard to run around in and enjoy while i am at work and can take him to the beach etc. when im back home. and he will have been well socialized when i bring him back to toronto with me. ONLY thing is that bringing in dogs from north america to bermuda the dog must have two rabies shots which means they have to be around 10months.
This is just a little info about that.
http://www.pettravel.com/immigration/bermuda.cfm

Anyway I was looking at Lando's but a definately open to any suggestions of great breeders. So basically if i bring a dog in from America/Canada the dog must be 10months+ but i can import a puppy from UK as well as a few other countries mentioned in the link i believe. Ideally a puppy would be the best so we can bond from early as well as me watching it grow up to a handsome young man lol. so was wondering if anyone know anything about lando's boxers or any suggestions as in what to do (puppy vs young dog) (america vs UK) i dunno. just looking for some insight.
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Hi Nai! I grew up in Toronto! I wanted to wish you good luck in your search for a boxer....I've heard of Lando's, surfed their site in the past....you should ask lots of questions; how many litters per yr?, health testing, is the mom on site? etc.....let us know how it goes on the wknd! :)
 

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IMO, they have way too many litters a year, I see no sign of health testing either..A health test IS NOT having the vet check the dog out..This is a list of what health tests should be given, prior to breeding..Also if you are going to be traveling, you might just want to wait until you get back to get a pup or an adult..That's too much stress to put a dog thru...As far as Euro vs American, that's a personal prefernce, just ask tons of questions and get proof of testing on paper


RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HEALTH SCREENING OF BOXERS
IN BREEDING PROGRAMS

TESTING AND REPORTING GUIDELINES
ABC HEALTH & RESEARCH COMMITTEE

Use and interpretation of tests should be in consultation with your veterinarian or veterinary specialist. These guidelines will be updated as further knowledge is gained.

Condition Tested Test Used Minimum Age Frequency Reported As
Hip/Elbow Dysplasia Radiograph
Radiograph 2 years
6 mos. Once
Once OFA# or
PennHip%

Hypothyroidism Thyroid Panel2 2 years Annually for Breeding date tested**

Aortic Valve Disease Auscultation / Doppler1 None None date tested**

AS / SAS Auscultation & Doppler Echocardiogram1 24 mos. 1 Once by Echo date tested**

Boxer Cardiomyopathy1 Holter Monitor 12 mos. Annually for Breeding date tested**
 

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well any suggestions for a good lace to go would be. who would you recommend. thanks for the advice.
 

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From what I have learned, this site is really not for advocating a particular breeder, but my advise is to go on the American Boxer Club website, find a regional club and then call them for suggestions. From what I can see (and the moderators can certainly chime in) Boxerforums does not offer any breeders free advertisement but have a lot of great information on what to look for in a reputable breeder. I find that when you start attending confirmation shows and find a AKC/ABC affliated dog club, you have a better chance of finding someone reputable than internet searches, craigslist, kijiji, etc.

Good luck finding a puppy. There are a lot of reputable breeders out there and it is completely worth it to find one, vice a dog with a bad temperment and health problems. It just may take some time, but well worth it in the end.
 

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:up: Well said Theresa, and yes the best place to start is with your local Boxer club and go from there...Attend shows and talk to the breeders, handlers and owners
 

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Either that or attend some local dog shows or boxer club events. This way you can meet some breeders, their dogs and get to know them with hopes of getting a pup!
 

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Well I just got back from Lando's and I must say I had a very good experience so far. It was a nice small home. We were welcomed by Linda the breeder and Ando a huge beautiful brindle boy and fawn pup. We talked and she explained some of her philosophies and she seems like she really cares for her dogs. There was one that she loved and wanted to breed but isn't going keep because of a small heart mumur so she seems like a very responsible loving owner.She does have a fostering program which I saw some people dislikes but her explanation for it was that she doesn't want to have all of the dogs she breeds in a kennel at her house because she wont be able to give them all enough individual attention which is very respectable. i attached a link with a few pictures. im torn between the two male brindles!!! what do u think haha cute huh?
Here is the link. http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/
 

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Boy tough choice. They are both adorable and I like both colors.
 

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My question is is this -

Heart murmur - can disappear if its a young puppy. Also how was it diagnosed? If its that bad enough that she does not want to breed that she is putting the pup in a pet home, then that is fine - however....what is she doing about the parents of this pup? Is she testing them to make sure that they are 100% sound via echo and holters???? Heart issues are majoirty genetic.

People who "seem like a very responsible owner" is 360 degree different from a 100% reponsible breeder!! and "seemed like she cared for her dogs" is again, much different than care for her dogs my health testing them, tracking health, showing, obedience and all that jazz. Anyone can be an awesome owner who cares for their pets and is responsible, but that does not classify them as the best breeder!!! - Just a thought. :)
 

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yea its just a murmur so she is holding onto her at the moment to see if it goes away which u are def right about. she only had a 1 on her heart test but is waiting to see if the murmur clears out. From my visit with her I would have to say that me n the three friends that came with me thought she was a very responsible breeder. i think im leaning towards the darker brindle. anyone have any pictures of an older dog that may look like this.
 

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I noticed the file name on the darker pup is black so not sure if you know this or not there is NO such thing as a black boxer :)
 

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yea...i know that but was sending those pictures to my mom. she is not big into dogs so wouldn't understand brindle & reverse brindle. she would just ask me call them the black one and the brown one lol.
 

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she was a very responsible breeder
ok then, what is your definition of a "responsible breeder"? :D

Not trying to be picky but this purchase is not a TV and you said you want to find the "PERFECT" companion. Its a living thing that is going to be your responsibility. Your pocket if it has heath or temperment issues, and something that is going to interact with family and friends. Youe emotions thru everything the good and the bad - its an investment! Make sure its worth it, and dont get swayed by good feelings and puppy breath!!
 

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Also what makes the brindle breedable??? You mention she wants to hold on to her to breed but to me what else is her purpose??? There has to be certain characteristics that make you keep a pup. Then you test them in the ring. Make sure they are "good" breeding stock to even be bred. Compare what you are producing to what others are producing. They seem with their foster program to be very concerned with breeding. Yet they breed to their own stock. Each breeder who is truly taking the standard and their lines into consideration never breeds to their own dog. Hence why you look at many litter announcements you will see one kennels bitch, and another stud.
 

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yea i hear u. i asked her that too. she has breed dogs from other kennels as well. she recently said she was breeding with a dog from serbia. the fostering program. she said she does show sometimes. but is there something about the place u know about already?
 

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Did you look at the links that were posted to you about this breeder, and other people experiences? I agree with everything Heather said...this breeder does not sound like a reputable breeder...

Does she health test? And if she does, what for?
 

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well she does test for hips n heart so she does health test all of her dogs. are there specific test i should ask her for. i love all of ur advice. i just asked her all of the questions everyone else had and from talkin to her she provided me with good anwers...well i thought. i also asked twoisenough on the forum who bred to a stud of hers (kaco boxers) and they said they knew the breeder and was impressed with her dogs etc. im just trying to understand what im missing so i know if i talk to another breeder.
 
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