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Came across this and thought I would pass it along........Not all foods have been graded, but you can do your own dogs food if it's not on the list.

Interesting... especially the grade given to Costco's Brand of food (Kirkland's)!

How to grade your dog's food:
Start with a grade of 100:
1) For every listing of "by-product"
, subtract 10 points
2) For every non-specific animal source ("meat" or "poultry", meat,
meal
or fat) reference, subtract 10 points
3) If the food contains BHA, BHT, or ethox yquin, subtract 10 points
4) For every grain "mill run" or non-specific grain source, subtract 5
points
5) If the same grain ingredient is used 2 or more times in the first
five ingredients (i.e. "ground brown rice", "brewerâs rice", "rice
flour" are all the same grain), subtract 5 points
6) If the protein sources are not meat meal and there are less than 2
meats in the top 3 ingredients, subtract 3 points
7) If it contains any artificial colorants, subtract 3 points
8 ) If it contains ground corn or whole grain corn, subtract 3 points
9) If corn is listed in the top 5 ingredients, subtract 2 more points
10) If the food contains any animal fat other than fish oil, subtract 2

points
11) If lamb is the only animal protein source (unless your dog is
allergic to other protein sources), subtract 2 points
12) If it contains soy or soybeans, subtract 2 points
13) If it contains wheat (unless you know that your dog isnât allergic

to wheat), subtract 2 points
14) If it contains beef (unless you know that your dog isnât allergic
to
beef), subtract 1 point
15) If it contains salt, subtract 1 point
Extra Credit:
1) If any of the meat sources are organic, add 5 points
2) If the food is endorsed by any major breed group or nutritionist,
add
5 points
3) If the food is baked not extruded, add 5 points
4) If the food contains probiotics, add 3 points
5) If the food contains fruit, add 3 points
6) If t! he food contains vegetables (NOT corn or other grains), add 3
points
7) If the animal sources are hormone-free and antibiotic-free, add 2
points
8 ) If the food contains barley, add 2 points
9) If the food contains flax seed oil (not just the seeds), add 2
points
10) If the food contains oats or oatmeal, add 1 point
11) If the food contains sunflower oil, add 1 point
12) For every different specific animal protein source (other than the
first one; count "chicken" and "chicken meal" as only one protein
source, but "chicken" and "" as 2 different sources), add 1 point
13) If it contains glucosamine and chondroitin, add 1 point
14) If the vegetables have been tested for pesticides and are
pesticide-free, add 1 point
94-100+ = A 86-93 = B 78-85 = C 70-77 = D >70 = F

Dog Food scores:
Alpo Prime Cuts / Score 81 C
Artemis Large/Medium Breed Puppy / Score 114 A+
Authority Harvest Baked / Score 116 A+
Authority Harvest Baked Less Active / Score 93 B
Beowulf Back to Basics / Score 101 A+
Bil-Jac Select / Score 68 F
Blackwood 3000 Lamb and Rice / Score 83 C
Blue Buffalo Chicken and Rice / Score 106 A+
Burns Chicken and Brown Rice / Score 107 A+
Canidae / Score 112 A+
Chicken Soup Senior / Score 115 A+
Diamond Maintenance / Score 64 F
Diamond Lamb Meal & Rice / Score 92 B
Diamond Large Breed 60+ Formula / Score 99 A
Diamond Performance / Score 85 C
Dick Van Patten's Natural Balance Ultra Premium / Score 122 A+
Dick Van Patten's Natural Balance Venison and Brown Rice / Score 106 A+
Dick Van Patten's Duck and Potato / Score 106 A+
EaglePack Holistic / Score 102 A+
Eukanuba Adult / Score 81 C
Eukanuba Puppy / Score 79 C
Flint River Senior / Score 101 A+
Foundations / Score 106 A+
Hund-n-Flocken Adult Dog (lamb) by Solid Gold / Score 93 B
Iams Lamb Meal & Rice Formula Premium / Score 73 D
Innova Dog / Score 114 A+
Innova Evo / Score 114 A+
Innova Large Breed Puppy / Score 122 A+
Kirkland Signature Chicken, Rice, and Vegetables / Score 110 A+
Member's Mark Chicken and Rice / Score 84 C

Merrick Wilderness Blend / Score 127 A+
Nature's Recipe / Score 100 A
Nature's Recipe Healthy Skin Venison and Rice / Score 116 A+
Nature's Variety Raw Instinct / Score 122 A+
Nutra Nuggets Super Premium Lamb Meal and Rice / Score 81 C
Nutrience Junior Medium Breed Puppy / Score 101 A+
Nutrisource Lamb and Rice / Score 87 B
Nutro Max Adult / Score 93 B
Nutro Natural Choice Lamb and Rice / Score 98 A
Nutro Natural Choice Large Breed Puppy / Score 87 B
Nutro Natural Choice Puppy Wheat Free / Score 86 B
Nutro Natural Choice Senior / Score 95 A
Nutro Ultra Adult / Score 104 A+
Pet Gold Adult with Lamb & Rice / Score 23 F
Premium Edge Chicken, Rice and Vegetables Adult Dry / Score 109 A+
Pro Nature Puppy / Score 80 C
Pro Plan Sensitive Stomach / Score 94 A
Purina Benful / Score 17 F
Purina Dog / Score 62 F
Purina Come-n-Get It / Score 16 F
Purina One Large Breed Puppy / Score 62 F
Royal Canin Boxer / Score 103 A+
Royal Canin Bulldog / Score 100 A+
Royal Canin Natural Blend Adult / Score 106 A+
Science Diet Advanced Protein Senior 7+ / Score 63 F
Science Diet for Large Breed Puppies / Score 69 F
Sensible Choice Chicken and Rice / Score 97 A
Solid Gold / Score 99 A
Summit / Score 99 A
Timberwolf Organics Wild & Natural Dry / Score 120 A+
Wellness Super5 Mix Chicken / Score 110 A+
Wolfking Adult Dog (bison) by Solid Gold / Score 97 A
 

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This is a good way to check your food but for me it still doesn't mean a whole lot.  The thing we look for in a food is a food that our dogs can easily digest, has good ingredients and one that our dog will actually eat and keep down.  Rating foods poorly because of the grains they contain doesn't make any sense to me.  

This system rates foods down that use corn as an ingredient, dogs wouldn't normally eat corn in the wild however they also wouldn't eat rice, potatoes, fruit, etc. either and this system gives them higher ratings because the food contains them.  

If your dog is allergic to many things then that would be a concern but none of our dogs have been allergic to any of the grains.   I agree that the Purina type foods are not great foods and don't have the nutritional value that higher quality foods have but the food we use is rated as an F on the list and our dogs have never been healthier, they have a beautiful coat, LOVE the food and are doing extremely well on it.

I just wouldn't want someone to try a food because of a bad grade when it might be the only food their dog will actually eat.  Some of the highest rated foods listed here out dog wouldn't eat and couldn't keep down.  :D
 

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Thanks for the post Willow, I'm just glad I didn't have to do the math lol.  I found this a very helpful in that pet food manufacturers do get bought and sold (Science Diet for example, and look what it did to them), as well as changing their formulas from time to time (such as buying cheap fillers from China).  So it's hard to stay up to date with who's making what these days. I also agree that if "something ain't broke, don't fix it".  With all the pet food recalls out there, it's nice to have someone staying on top of things so we can all make informed decisions.
 

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Boxerlove, you have a valid point. I tried Blue Buffalo for my 2, which is a wonderful food, but they couldn't tolerate it...I think it goes without saying, that what works for one, may not work for someone else..It is a trial & error thing sometimes. All this is, is something that you can use to HELP you determine what could be a better food for your boxer...It is not meant to be the definitive list of what to feed, just use as a guidline.... :)
 

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That is very true, it is helpful to see what types of foods are out there also.  This scale will help alot of new dog food buyers out there see why there is such a difference in foods and why there are some really bad ones out there.

There are so many now to choose from.  I know when we first started out 17 years ago we didn't know any better and started on purina puppy food since that is what was so heavily advertised, now it is nice to have so many choices to pick from.  Luckily at that time we were recommened a good food from our vet that was much better than any store brand...it was natures something...can't remember the name right now  :D   but now that food doesn't really compare to what foods are out there.  Change is good!
 

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We tried Canidae which is a really good food; lots of eye boogers and I have never seen a dog poo so much (soft too).  Now we are on Solid Gold and I plan to alternate with TimberWolf and Merrick.
 

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When I fed kibble (before raw) we used to rotate every 6 months a new human grade kibble.  Find out what they liked and what did not work with their systems.  Some were too Rich, others were fine.

We finally when we feed kibble use Timerwold Organics Ocean Blue with his grainless and contains fish oils which contribute to their coat condtions.  We love shiney coats:)
 

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Great post looks like Science diet is crap in a bag.  Its sad that the vets push these so hard.  I am going to get rid of the stuff as soon as I find something better.
 

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with our new boxer Madeline, we started her off with royal canine's boxer and puppy brand mixed (vet wanted us to mix in some puppy food to give her nutrients she needed for her coat).  she's out of food and i have to go pick some up today.  based on her stool, which has been a little soft, i'm going to try something else (although she seems to love the RC stuff)?  it's been so long since i've had a dog that i've never had the selections like today...

so, i'm going to try either Timberwolf Organic or Dick van Patten's Natural Balance.  This is soooo helpful, thank you very much for posting samsonsmom!!!
 

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I love the Timberwolf.  They have tons of different flavors that I rotate around with.   However I mainly do Ocean Blue since its grainless and fit better with my raw diet.

I use kibble less now, but if I need to and have to Timberwolf is it for me!
 

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We just got a new puppy and have been on Purina one and he inhales it just fine.  I have been looking to switch to something healthier.  I have a feeling he will be a good eater no matter what. Does anyone have any suggestions on how much food to give?  When he was 7 weeks are vet told us 1/2 cup.  Now he is 12 weeks and growing like a weed and we dont think he chews it.  We put the bowl down, turn around to wash hands, turn back around and it's gone.  He's down to 3 times per day and I have bumped it up to about 3/4 cup.  any input?  It's our first puppy and I really love this website.
 

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For a puppy I usually feed about one cup per meal, three times a day.   My pup is on raw and a grainless kibble so my feedings are different.

I would since he is a growing pup do a cup to a cup and 1/4 per meal of the good stuff, three times a day.  And then usually about 6 months, I switch to a two times a day feeding schedule of 1.5 cups in the am, and then the same in the pm.

Yes, I would recommend a different kibble, and you will see some great results and less poops!!!
 
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