I'll take american any day...to me...that nose is just too short..seems liek there would be more breathing issues with the short noses compared to the slightly longer american ones...
Head
The beauty of the head depends upon harmonious proportion of muzzle to skull. The blunt muzzle is 1/3rd the length of the head from the occiput to the tip of the nose, and 2/3rds the width of the skull.
Size, Proportion, Substance
Size: Adult males 22 1/2 to 25 inches, females 21 to 23 1/2 inches at the withers. Preferably, males should not be under the minimum nor females over the maximum; however, proper balance and quality in the individual should be of primary importance since there is no size disqualification.
Proportion: The body in profile is of square proportion in that a horizontal line from the front of the forechest to the rear projection of the upper thigh should equal the length of a vertical line dropped from the top of the withers to the ground.
The chest is of fair width, and the forechest well defined and visible from the side. The brisket is deep, reaching down to the elbows; the depth of the body at the lowest point of the brisket equals half the height of the dog at the withers.
Read this description of the standard and think of how many So called "American" muzzles are a bit to long. Just a ponit of conversation, not meant to cause flame suits be worn.
[quote:1fjvyar9] I'll take american any day...to me...that nose is just too short..seems liek there would be more breathing issues with the short noses compared to the slightly longer american ones
oh, I wasn't trying to criticize, it just seemed to me that the muzzle was a little shorter than standard, and that I would rather have a slightly too long muzzle than a slightly too short of one, wasn't trying to criticize...I can definately see the beauty in her...I'm sorry if i stepped on your toes, did not mean to do so
I know, just the way you come across sometimes, is a bit insensititive but I think I know what you mean - :lol: I have gotten your back a couple of times on other posts - and good thing it takes a lot to get me riled up and you are lucky I got another foot :rofl:
Heather...I will warn everyone here and now...I am socially retarded just like my Jetta...as a kid i was always getting in trouble for speaking before thinking...one christmas my mom saved a bunch of money to buy me a new clarinet...my response was...just think if we could go back in time we could get a GOOD clarinet for what you paid for this one...I was tyring to talk about how things were cheaper back then and what we spent now would go further and all...but I got in big trouble and hurt feelings...I just have a lot of trouble expressing things without offending...so I am really really sorry if i did offend you or Keanu's daddy...she is a beautiful boxer..your babies are gorgeous....and I was mostly worried about the short muzzle causing breathing problems like in pugs and bulldogs...that's what i was trying to say and somehow made it sound more like i hated the short noses...which is not what i was trying to say...lol...I'm a dork
Jamie - No worries, seriously its me, I dont take things to heart :wink: Yes she does have a shorter muzzle and the interpretation of the 1:3 is a bit shorter almost like a 1:2 - Euro's need to be careful because they are breeding many of the muzzles a bit short, some are more extreme than others. Some have have shorter noses and bigger nostrils and its when the nostril is pinched that there can be breathing problems - just like pug and what not.
Thanks Nexu - I know the muzzle is not the 1-3 for a NA line, more closer to the 1:2. However I, IMO would rather have a boxer that has a shorter muzzle than one that's muzzle is too long and exceeds the 1:3. I admit, I like my dogs Euro, some are overly done, some arn't. Luckily this dog in question was bred to another German import who nose was longer hence why my Kash's is not as short at his moms as well as most of the liter of 4.
Here you can see they are not to the extreme, but do have some dogs in their pedigree that are. Hanna's muzzle is a tad bit shorted to the 1:3 and Kash may be a little better - Hanna has smaller nostrils than K man does! But I swear she can smell anything!
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