Marx had his Doppler screening this Friday",no major heart issues",but he has heart murmur 2,the specialist didn't seem to be concerned and my vet didn't even know and she checked him before.On his paper it said : grade2/5 systolic murmur @ left base,some radiating con.....(can't read) @ right base
Marx's heart screening
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There was a recent post regarding the puppy with the grade 3 by Sharon. I think she said that a one or two iwasn't too bad but hopefully she gives you some good answers when she checks in next time. Don't worry too much. I've had 3 and I can tell you that it never slowed any of them down very much!
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Often by "flow murmur" cardiologists mean a physiologic murmur that is not due to any underlying defect; "innocent" murmurs are not necessarily unusual in athletic breeds. How old is Marx, and are there any notes about flow rate (in m/sec) or pressure (in mmHg)? Those are more informative than simple grade of murmur, as far as level of disease (if any).
I posted about the puppy with the 3 murmur. I have spent the last few days contacting vets and researching. It seems overwhelming that 1-2 murmurs are accepted and not worried about much at all. # is obviously on the borderline, but like Jennifer said, flow rate is good info to know. I just found out the pup's flow rate is 1.5. If she told me that the first time we talked, I forgot about it, because I doubt I would have been so worried. It seems like under 2.4 is acceptable. It's like our blood pressure, the higher it is, the worse off. I doubt VERY much that 2/5 meant 2-5, that is almost the entire spectrum. (0-6) I have come across more people than I thought, that have dogs with murmurs. It is more common than I realized, that is for sure. Most seem to make sure the dog gets a VERY good food, and not overheat. Hope that helps some. I am still researching, whether I get the privilage of owning the little guy, or for future knowledge, just in case.
1.4 m/sec is within normal range, so my guess would be that his murmur is considered 'innocent' at this point; it may be something you want to re-check at a year (if not sooner) just to be sure the status hasn't changed.
White gums and wobbly is worrisome, though; while it doesn't seem as if it would have been due to AS, given the flow rate, it may be the other Boxer heart disease, ARVC, which won't usually show up on a Doppler; for that, you need a 24-hour Holter monitor. It may have been a random occurrence, and it may have been related to low blood sugar or anemia (Boxer puppies in general seem to have a tendency toward anemia, for some reason); I wouldn't panic, but if it happens again I'd definitely have a Holter done, just to see if there's anything happening on a fairly regular basis.
White gums and wobbly is worrisome, though; while it doesn't seem as if it would have been due to AS, given the flow rate, it may be the other Boxer heart disease, ARVC, which won't usually show up on a Doppler; for that, you need a 24-hour Holter monitor. It may have been a random occurrence, and it may have been related to low blood sugar or anemia (Boxer puppies in general seem to have a tendency toward anemia, for some reason); I wouldn't panic, but if it happens again I'd definitely have a Holter done, just to see if there's anything happening on a fairly regular basis.
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·thx newcastle. i had forgotten that my current vet said thors 2-3 is not a problem because he is very muscular and athletic.
i just watch for signs of overheating, salt intake, hydration and feed him well. no episodes with him other than panting when he's been burning really bad.
lentylka1 - glad marz is ok!! tell henry to place nice!
i just watch for signs of overheating, salt intake, hydration and feed him well. no episodes with him other than panting when he's been burning really bad.
lentylka1 - glad marz is ok!! tell henry to place nice!
It sounds like you have already got alot of good information but yes when noted as 2/5 that means on a grade scale of 5 (some vets use 5 and some use 6) that your dog has a grade 2......It is the flow that tells the story more then the grade per say.....and a blood velocities below 2.0 m/S is considered acceptable...
It is something you will want to keep an eye on as time goes on though..............it may become worse with age and it may never change and cause issues at all....time will tell on this situation.....It maybe that having a slight heart defect could have added to the issue with having the wind knocked out of him...but since you know heart issues run within the family better to be safe and keep a watchful eye.....
It is something you will want to keep an eye on as time goes on though..............it may become worse with age and it may never change and cause issues at all....time will tell on this situation.....It maybe that having a slight heart defect could have added to the issue with having the wind knocked out of him...but since you know heart issues run within the family better to be safe and keep a watchful eye.....
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