OK then. If "prong Collar's," are illegal where you are??? That goes a long way in explaining, the complete lack of understanding of what they do and how they work!Flexi leashes, leashes longer than 6ft, tie outs and etc are all illegal in my area too
And it seems like you have pretty much zero, chance of finding anyone that understands and could show you how to use a "Prong Collar"properly, were you are?? Sigh ... that's to bad cuz this would be about a two minute fix with a properly fitted Prong Collar and you'd have to do uh next to nothing! A self correcting solution as it were. Course if they are "Illegal" ??? Where you are that's another issues uh ... sorta.
It seems that Prongs are frowned upon , where you are but E-Collar's are not??? That's kinda ... odd???
I use the SLL 99% of the time by choice and "necessity." WIth Rescues Work, they will only let use a SSL. And they will caution you that, "this dog Pull's!" ANd 9 times out 10 they do ... for most people but not ... if you understand dog's and how to properly use a SLL. I tend to thing the SLL is more of an Art than a Science??
I have had only three "Hard Core," I don't wanna case's?? Where perhaps a Prong would have been more effective quickly?? And ironically enough all Bully's! A seriously Big/Hugh Headed APBT/Cross. That was having none of it ... I does what I want, when I wants!!
He tried to pull like a fright train! FIne then see where that get's you?? He gave that up and then went to biting, the leash another fail for him. And then flipping and spinning ... another fail for him.
Finally after he was done with his crap?? I had spent about fifteen minutes just getting him to move forward and that is a long time for me, to just for walking??? And we did finally move forward ... LOL he was not??? About three steps forward and he would dart, "Hard in front of me, from left to right, WTH??? I never was able to solve that one as I was just helping out an owner ... that did not care?? He said he had tow more dog's just like him and they do the same thing?? Most likely he does leash any of them and has no control of them ... fortunately ... he did not leave me.
And another hmm Boxer/APBT?? Backyard dog for five years at the time. My neighbors and I volunteered to walk her ... Yeah ... she was fine for about five feet, and she started to tug and I corrected her with a slight tug sideways?? And she shut down hard!! A hard core, "Plopper Downer!"
Straight to the ground and she was not gonna move!! It took about 30 minutes to get her from directly in front of her home to half to the neighbor's house ANd the house's her are close!! So now I know. The next day we load her in the car to go to the Vet. And the same behaviour ...away from home on a leash?? Soo ... I'll ploy down?? The staff of course use those really narrow SLL's. ANd while they are fine for most dog's ... they would not work with Bree?? So I intervened. I'll take her in the room and out. And now off familiar ground ... there was no one to trust ...save for me?? It went fine we checked out and again not on home turf?? SLL in hand we went for a walk and she did great!!
If you'd have seen her ... she'd have given the impression of a well trained dog that walks on leash ... all the time!! Just getting her off "Home Turf," made all the difference ... who knew???
And there was Stewie, my first Boxer/APBT rescue 4 months ... he was excellent on leash! And did not really need one?? As he would like to demonstrate at worst of time's?? If we came under thread by other dog's on a walk. Stewie could chuck his collar at will??? And I would he left with a collar and leash and no dog?? But it was all good as he would not leave my side under duress ... he just did not like that crap on him??
I never did figure out he did that ... but Martindale Collar's are designed to prevent that! Martindale's are not "Training Collar's," despite what folks seem to be belive but hey if it works for them .. it's all good!
And finally keeping it both current and on topic, we come to Bella! My current APBT/Boxer! And the first dog I have used ... "properly," a Prong Collar on! And it worked just fine! I used the SLL for the most part and walk her with that daily. But she does want to forge ahead a bit on the SLL, it's annoying and we are still working on it.
But with the "Prong Collar," she does not that. But "my" issue with the "Prong Collar," is they are a PIA to fit, and to take on and take off?? It's annoying and without a D clip to there regular, they can "pop off!"
So day in day out a typical prong collar can be a PIA?? But because, "Prong Collar's," are illegal in some part's of the World ... people have found other means, Sealth Prong's. There were other types' out but these seem to be thing now??
Keeper Collar's, seem to be the thing now and they do seem to have an advantage even if you don't need to "Hide," a Prong Collar ie they fit with a buckle no clipping and unc,, over a "real Prong," collar even where you don't need to hide them. No un clipping and re clipping prong's to fit them required!
Pretty cool actually but not cheap?? I'll have to see if Bella is still enough of a PIA on walks to make it worth it?? It's the last 5% or so where she get's ... annoying??
And with additional information here ... I do have a few suggestions that pretty much require no special tools at all, well Ok a "Pet Convincer," perhaps? Just a slightly different approach. But you know somehow we got off on "Prong,Prong,Prong?? So ....