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Im having issues with my 3 month old boxer..and need your opinions on how to address this issue..

but to explain the issue im gonna try and play it out for you... imagine this

im sitting on the couch with my b/f after feeding and playing with harley and taking him out to potty. everything is calm.. and here comes harley he walks under the coffee table and jumps up to be petted.. I pet him then he try's to bite my had.. i say calmly "NO BITE" but he lundges back then goes at it again.. and once again "NO BITE" and i start to ignore him.. he then starts to bark at the top of his lungs and hunker down under the table.. and lundge at me again to bite me.. Not hard bites but puppy bites.. i say harley no bite.. he starts to bark and bark and when i bend down to him.. he backs away from me and lays down under the table barking uncontrollably.. i try to get him to come to me and he backs away and then runs off still barking.. my neighbors are beating the walls screaming for me to shut the dog up and harley just keeps barking and running from me when i try to get him.

sooooo how do i go about controlling this?
 

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only thing i could suggest is time out. i havent ever had this issue, but i know some have here so they maybe able to help a little more!
 

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I would suggest walking away from him when he does it.  Completely ignore him!
 

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Yup. I'd ignore it when he barks and completely disengage. The moment he stops or pauses, reward him with attention and praise. It seems like right now he associates barking with getting your attention.
 

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I always found time outs pretty effective. Just don't use the crate as your time out..We used to leash Angel to a door handle or something for like 5 minutes, no attention, nothing. Boxers hate that...It's another form of ignoring them, so that may be worth a try
 

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I never had a problem with the barking.  I practically had to make Willy bark.  The biting thing though, my trainer showed me one time that if you grab the lower part of the jaw and press your thumb down in the middle of the tongue and say "No bite", it creates discomfort.  He'll squeel like you just stepped on his foot, but I did it and after about 4 or 5 times, he quit any biting at all.  Hope everything works out for you.
 

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Why not when he tries to bite, redirect with a toy he can chew on or play with?   Thus his attention is now on the toy and not you.
 

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okay.. ive done the toy thing..he'll play with the toy for a few seconds then bite me again.. and ive tried the ignore thing .. again it is only a VERY short tempory fix.. the time out ive not tried yet.. but how will i do this when everytime this behavior is going on and i try and go toward him he runs and it turns into a game of catch me if you can..
even if i reach out my hand he acts like im going to hurt him and lundges backwards
 

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Have you tried a bully stick???  Its not rawhide but a digestable chew toy.  keep them occupied for a long time.  Kash could give a Sh*t about toys, give him a marrow bone or a bully, he is in heaven.  Hanna is all toy no food.
 

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i have those.. he gets them when he does good.. in fact he just came up to me and when he started to bite.. i did the holding my thumb in his mouth and holdin his tongue down.. as stated above. .HE STOPPED THE BITING then tried it all over again.. and again i did the same thing.. he jumped down barked and i ignored him and he walked away from me.
 

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What age did you get him?   It almost like he is treating you like one of his littermates.  

***My timeouts.  Put his leash on, and put the handle around a door know.  I use my hall doorknob because it connect the rooms I am in.   I put here there for about 2 minutes alone, attached to the door by the lead.   After two minutes I set her free.    Ignore is the best thing.  By giving in you feed into the game he is playing.  Sneaky little devils and the play well, but you need to play better.  Might take you 10 times, but hopefully the little spitfire will obey:)
 

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HannaBanana\";p=\"57080 said:
**My timeouts.  Put his leash on, and put the handle around a door know.  I use my hall doorknob because it connect the rooms I am in.   I put here there for about 2 minutes alone, attached to the door by the lead.   After two minutes I set her free.    Ignore is the best thing.  By giving in you feed into the game he is playing.  Sneaky little devils and the play well, but you need to play better.  Might take you 10 times, but hopefully the little spitfire will obey:)
This is exactly what we did for Sadie's timeouts...they really work, you just have to be consistent with it. It does take time, but eventually Sadie is much better now with the nipping.
 

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[quote="HannaBanana\";p=\"57080":3n9cif0s]What age did you get him?
 

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my only question left is.. when im ready to do the time out.. and i reach for him he runs away.. if i chase him then he is going to think its a game and he is getting  time out for playing
 

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do i need to use just one lesh (5 ft)
Nope small one.  Just enough to keep him in place

 and i reach for him he runs away
Then once you get him, immediately put him into time out, and walk away.   After a couple of times he should know that this does not mean play.  

You may want to work on recall.    Practice with someone else with you.  Grab some treats.  Have him at one end of the room, you at the other.  Call him "Harley Come".   Only say it once.   If he comes to you, praise the hell out oh him and give him a treat.   Then have the other person do it.   Recall is very important.   Having you dog start to come when called and having them recognize their name is really at a young age what you want.  I think right now he is young, and hence why everything is a game.    Are you planning on taking him to any puppy classes???   I recommend them not only for socialization but for the basics too.   I am a furm beliver that if you add stucture to a dogs life, their attitude can change tremendously.  Then again, I am not a certified trainer, but taken many classes, all with different types of instructors.    It all boils down to the "Are you going to control the dog, or is the dog going to control you?.   Be firm and stick to your guns!!
 

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I WANT NOTHING MORE THAN TO PUT HIM IN PUPPY CLASSES.. BUT UNTIL I START BACK WORKING I JUST CANT AFFORD IT.. I TAKE HIM TO THE PARK ON LESH EVERY WEEKEND TO KEEP HIM WITH OTHER PPL AS WELL AS ANIMALS.. BUT IM TRYING TO BE AS FIRM AS POSSIBLE WITH THE TRAINING.. HE IS DOING OKAY.. THIS IS MY ONLY ISSUE.. AND OF COURSE JUMPING MY DAUGHTER TO BITE HER AS SHE WALKS BY (SHES 3).. OTHER THAN THIS HE IS DOING WELL.. SITS ON COMMAND.. DOES DOWN ON COMMAND AND GIVES PAW ON COMMAND .. IM WORKING ON STAY NOW.. HE IS ONLY 3 MONTHS OLD SO HE IS DOING WELL FOR HIS AGE.. AND ONLY HAS ABOUT 1 OR 2 ACCIDENTS IN THE HOUSE IN A WEEKS TIME. IM REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THAT
 

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okay we are doing wonderful with the biting.. he bites and i hold his tongue down with my finger and say no bite.. he stops and lets me pet him.. its working great.. and i did the time out a few minutes ago but that just didnt work.. and the ignore will work but he gets mad and tears something up.. im going to keep it up with the time outs
 
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