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Hey all,
I'm trying to find a good breeder in my area, and this is one of the breeders I found. According to the test results they show, all of the females tested as at risk for DM and one of the males tested as a carrier for ARVC?
Feedback would be great, as I am new at this finding a breeder business.
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I've been looking at different Breeders also gonna be a while and I'm looking for another White Baby girl.

Been burned by BYB twice I had no idea in the past but now I do!

Anyway I found a site it looked pretty good, Past Champions etc, etc and they list the health test.

So I'm looking and under the girls, moma Boxer shows A/A for DM???? And though they actually have a bunch of useful info on caring for a DM dog! Which is great to know if it happens but it was like they were saying it's not a big deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WTH???? I thought Breeding was about improving the Breed?? Oh and mom was a Flashy. I thought the point of Breed improvement was to eliminate bad genes from the gene pool? Would'nt that be best accomplished by not breeding any dog that carries either gene?

Not pairing AA with clear just get rid of the AA gene all together. Am I missing something????????????

I will stay as far away from that gene as possible!
 

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So I'm looking and under the girls, moma Boxer shows A/A for DM???? And though they actually have a bunch of useful info on caring for a DM dog! Which is great to know if it happens but it was like they were saying it's not a big deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WTH???? I thought Breeding was about improving the Breed??

Would'nt that be best accomplished by not breeding any dog that carries either gene?
At this point there's not enough dogs in the gene pool to only breed clears. I believe about 13% now of all Boxers tested for DM are clear. You would be cutting out almost 90% of the gene pool which would be harmful. The test for DM is new, there really hasn't been enough time for breeders to really start making an impact with their breeding to produce only clear dogs. Some believe that having carriers can also be a good thing as it may be a protecting gene and don't want to completely get rid of carriers either. Most breeders are working to breed to carriers first and then clear. They don't want to scrap their lines just because of DM.

Although DM isn't a pretty disease it's not painful for the dog and normally strikes them at a late age. I'm not saying it isn't a big deal though. Most are mainly breeding away from disease that will strike them at a younger age and that will be painful and possibly fatal for them like cancer, heart problems, JRD, hip dysplasia, etc. It's seen as a lesser of the evils right now.


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At this point there's not enough dogs in the gene pool to only breed clears. I believe about 13% now of all Boxers tested for DM are clear. You would be cutting out almost 90% of the gene pool which would be harmful. The test for DM is new, there really hasn't been enough time for breeders to really start making an impact with their breeding to produce only clear dogs. Some believe that having carriers can also be a good thing as it may be a protecting gene and don't want to completely get rid of carriers either. Most breeders are working to breed to carriers first and then clear. They don't want to scrap their lines just because of DM.

Although DM isn't a pretty disease it's not painful for the dog and normally strikes them at a late age. I'm not saying it isn't a big deal though. Most are mainly breeding away from disease that will strike them at a younger age and that will be painful and possibly fatal for them like cancer, heart problems, JRD, hip dysplasia, etc. It's seen as a lesser of the evils right now.


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Well I Lost my baby girl to DM hit her hard at 8.5 yrs so I'm a bit jaded. But thank you for the thoughtful response but 13% percent clear??? That's really depressing to hear!:cry2:
 

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There are far more at risk dogs than there are clear ones. I am proud to say that every dog in my breeding program is currently clear.
Yeah I saw that! :)

My future dogie is looking more and more expensive up front! :)
 

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Well I Lost my baby girl to DM hit her hard at 8.5 yrs so I'm a bit jaded. But thank you for the thoughtful response but 13% percent clear??? That's really depressing to hear!:cry2:
Just checked and it's up to 18% now. I also did forget if you contact the breeder at this link http://bavariasboxers.com she has a list if breeders who are only producing clear or breeding for clear Boxers.


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Just checked and it's up to 18% now. I also did forget if you contact the breeder at this link Bavaria's Boxers - Vera Kollar she has a list if breeders who are only producing clear or breeding for clear Boxers.


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Struddell's mom was White (yeah I know...now!) and her dad was a Fashy. Struddell developed DM. If only 18% of Boxers are clear...then a BYB breeders practically guarantees a DM dog!:cry:

Thanks for the link!
 

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I hate to "stir the pot" but Blazin Boxers is not a good place to get a puppy. The owner behaves very erratically and childish when asked about her dogs and breeding program. She breeds her females every single heat, does zero health testing, and none of her dogs have titles or accomplishments. She advertises her dogs as "champion bloodlines" which is deceiving. None of her dogs are champions they simply have champions in their lines. If you ask her about any of this she literally has a tantrum, calls names and insults who ever asks her about her breeding program. She charges 600$ a pop for unhealth tested "pet" quality dogs. She doesn't have a kennel licenses either. She maintains she doesn't breed for profit but looking at the evidence it's clear she does. I would stay far away from her dogs if I was you.
 

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Ok, big show breeder. They do absolutely no hip testing ( or it's not listed on any of their dogs so it's something I would ask about) and their current litter has a DM at risk bitch bred to a carrier :( which means you will have 50% Carriers and 50% At Risk

If you do get a puppy from this breeding I would request the breeder DNA test the puppies prior to you making your selection and only choosing a Carrier puppy.
 

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Chip, I wondered if you ever looked at this breeder since you're very fond of the Euros. http://www.bigmacboxers.com/

It looks like she does take applications for white puppies! I can't vouch for the breeder's integrity because I don't know anyone who has bought a puppy there.

I do think it helps to look at the "contract" the breeder requires you to sign.
 
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